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Old 10-04-2005, 06:03 PM
Rudey Rudey is offline
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Funny how you're arguing with something many political scientists have pointed at.

But then again you never, ever have facts - just accusations and smoke.

-Rudey
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Originally posted by HelloKitty22
Oh, I wasn't directing my comment at you. Rudey and I have an ongoing debate on this topic. We sit on completely opposite sides of the political spectrum.
I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. I agree that African Americans need to start playing the political game both in terms of voting and in terms of back channels. While AfA's are only 13% of the population, they are capable of changing elections because in many areas they are highly concentrated. AfA's tend to vote disproportionately less then they appear in the overall population, in contrast to Hispanics who vote disproportionately more in many areas. Personally, I think that they would benefit from voting more. Period. But I also agree with you that there should be more AfA centered issue PACs and other money contributing venue. EMILY's list has made a huge difference in the number of women in elected offices. I similar organization could do a lot of AfAs.
I do know that the social conservatism of many AfAs has made them feel forced to vote Republican because of social issues. However, I don't think voting republican is the answer. I agree that the republican party blames the poor for their own situation and isn't looking to meaningfully help them. And if wealthier AfAs defect to the Republicans both with their money and their votes, whatever safety net there is for the poor in this country will be gone. The people who don't need the help have to put their money and power behind maintaining the government safety net and even expanding it, because otherwise it will be gone.
Truthfully that is one of the reasons I am so vehimently pro-choice. I personally don't care if Roe is reversed for me. I have excellent access to birth control and I live in New York, which legalized abortion before Roe was decided. My life isn't going to change, if Roe is reversed. But I fight for all the women who live in states where if Roe was reversed there would be no access to legalized abortion. I think many issues the AfA community face have a similar dynamic. The ones with the power, money and education have to speak for those who don't have those blessings.
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