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Old 10-04-2005, 04:10 PM
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On Organized Religion:
They say that religion is the opiate of the masses. I'm not one of the masses but I tend to agree with the statement. I don't trust people without faith and I don't trust people of the masses. But I believe in the freedoms and the progress the world has made through religion (abolishment of slavery in the US, etc.). How's that for the generality of my views on religion?

Yes, no man is perfect. I agree with that.

On Islam:
However, how am I attacking Islam by posting a truth or a fact? Perhaps what bothers you is that I am able to find more "truths and facts" on Islam to post than I am on other religions. But what is that a function of? Perhaps it's my interest in the middle east. Maybe, more than likely, it's a function of the fact that every day there is more and more news about Muslims and Arabs that either support or partake in awful acts of violence. There is very little in the news about priests and molestations these days but there sure as heck was news when Muslim terrorists attacked Bali. If there were no news, I'd have little to comment on the topic I suppose.

And most people are tired of the "Islam is a religion of peace" or the "these guys are wrong" speech. No major organized religion is a religion of peace. None. Mohammed himself fought and killed. And, again, it seems that there is a very large portion of the Muslim world that interprets the Qu'ran differently from you with the guidance of Muslim leaders (financed through US ally Saudi Arabia) and this is something that can't be ignored. Why do I see large protests against the war in Iraq in Muslim countries but no protests against the fact that Sunni Muslims are massacring Shite Muslims? Perhaps someone will now say "Islam is a religion of peace" and we can forget that.

I don't know how to fix things, but neither denial nor empty words will ever help.

-Rudey

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Originally posted by jubilance1922
Rudey, this is a serious response, so I hope I get one back.

For me, the Quran is my guide, it tells me how to practice my religion correctly. If I'm prohibited from doing something by the Quran, but I do it anyway, then that means that I'm not practicing my religion correctly.

NO man is perfect, and the only one who can truly judge someone is God, and he will on Judgement Day. Whether another human gives his "blessing" on something is irrelevant.

I have a serious question now. You seem determined to point out the "large number of mistakes and 'incorrectness'" in Islam. Do you have a personal vendetta against organized religion, or only this one? I ask because I have a lot of problems with Christianity, but I don't post everytime someone beats children under the name of Christ or when a priest molests a child. It serves me no purpose in my own faith to down someone else's religion. I'm saying this in all sincerity, it truly hurts my heart that almost everyday I log on GC and have to have my faith attacked. You may not want to know, but not Muslims are the way that you try to protray them.

I'm sure you're going to have some snappy comeback, which is fine, but my purpose was to really try to engage you in a serious conversation, not to be mean to you or berate you. If you would feel more confortable having this conversation privately, you can pm me.