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Originally posted by moe.ron
hoosier, how do you feel about Cak Nur's philosophy of Islam and the state?
Honour killing isn't part of Islam. In most cases, the perpetrator of the killing is done outside of Islamic law. Honour killing is unheard of in Southeast Asia and West African Muslim nations. However, it is very relevant in South Asia and the Middle East.
The execution of princess Misha'al of Saudi Arabia is an example of extre judiciary example of honor killing. Instead of the princess being brought before the judicial system, and having four witnesses of good charactes, which would be almost impossible to prove since these conducts are done in private.
hoosier, can you tell me explicitly where in Islamic law that says the Camel must die? Cut and paste would be fine.
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That is your interpretation of Islam. There are no absolutes in religion. Nowhere in the Qu'ran does it say "Thou shalt blow yourself up" or "Thou shalt fly a plane into buildings", but there are interpretations and fatwas that have allowed for that. Premarital and extramarital sex are punishable, as you say, if you have 4 witnesses. That there shows that honor killings can be a part of Islam. The fact that it is not a rare occurence is further proof that many people have this interpretation of Islam. But then again Sunnis don't believe Shites are true muslims either.
Traditional interpretations of Islamic law prescribe severe punishments for zina' (extramarital sex) by both men and women; premarital sex may be punished by up to 100 lashes, while adultery is punishable by stoning. The act must however be attested by at least four male witnesses of good character, punishments are reserved to the legal authorities, and false accusations are themselves punished severely. The term "honor killing" refers specifically to extra-legal punishment by the family against the woman, and as such is forbidden by the sharia.
The execution of the Saudi Arabian princess Misha'al is a prime example of an honor killing in that the execution did not follow any Islamic court proceeding but was ordered directly by her grandfather.
Interpretations of these rules vary. Some Arabs regard it as their right under both tradition and sharia (by the process of al-urf), though this contradicts the views of the vast majority of Islamic scholars (fuqaha). Ayatollah Ali Khamenei of Iran has condemned the practice as "un-Islamic", though the punishment under Iranian law remains lenient. In Indonesia, the world's largest Muslim country, honor killings are unknown, as also in Muslim parts of West Africa. According to Sheikh Atiyyah Saqr, former head of the al-Azhar University Fatwa Committee (one of the oldest and most prestigious in the Muslim world):
"Like all other religions, Islam strictly prohibits murder and killing without legal justification. Allah, Most High, says, “Whoso slayeth a believer of set purpose, his reward is Hell for ever. Allah is wroth against him and He hath cursed him and prepared for him an awful doom.” (An-Nisa’: 93) The so-called “honor killing” is based on ignorance and disregard of morals and laws, which cannot be abolished except by disciplinary punishments."[5]
In Pakistan, when a bill proposing to strengthen the law against "Honor Killing" was defeated in Parliament, March 2, 2005, the government allied with the Islamist opposition to decide explicitly that the bill was "un-Islamic" (BBC)
Even Hamas ordered a woman to become a suicide bomber or suffer an honor killing.
-Rudey