Again, they turned a blind eye and did not prosecute. You said they didn't turn a blind eye entirely...so I guess they turned a blind eye just a little huh? Either way,
regardless of to what extent, they turned a blind eye. Find something else to argue about because this point is lost.
Again, the government did provide assistance for their war memorial. You admit "well yes I did recieve some municpal funding". Even if that assistance is one penny, it is assistance. If the government provides me with health care at 10% of the normal cost, they are providing assistance and subsidization.
Hence, the government assisted in building these soldiers a war memorial.
Again, call it what you want but having that large number of Canadians (some places say over 30,000) fighting in Vietnam while the government turned a blind eye, did not prosecute, and then provided assistance to build a war memorial could be seen by some at the very least as providing assistance and at the very most as participating.
-Rudey
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Originally posted by RACooper
You can try and defend Ann Coulter's misguided perceptions about Canada - Vietnam and otherwise - but unfortunately there is really no dancing around the issue that she was dead wrong (again).
Though still not recognized by the government as veterans nor by the Royal Canadian Legion as such either... basically it means they get no benefits (health or otherwise) that veteran status would entail.
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Hmmm someone has been a little mis-informed
Alright other than the individual community monuments or memorials I'll list the "National" ones dedicated to particular wars:
In the 19th century...
War of 1812 (Queenston Heights, ON), Crimean War (Halifax, NS)
In the 20th century...
Boer War (Lydenburg, South Africa), World War I (Vimy, France), World War II (Juno Beach, France), Korean War (Milton, ON), Peacekeeping Missions (Ottawa, ON)...
and now unfortunately during the 21st century...
The War on Terror/Afghanistan (Kandahar, Afghanistan)
As for the Vietnam Memorial... well yes I did recieve some municpal funding, but it was funded mostly by private donations from Canadian and US citizens - but still it is not recgonized by the Federal government nor the Department of National Defense.
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Canada served (and still does ) in Vietnam and Cambodia as monitors and de-miners under the UN mandate overseeing the peace following the end of the Vietnam War... so while yes Canada did send peacekeepers it was after the cesation of hostilities and under a UN mandate and mission.
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Nice try... but did Canada the country, send troops... nope Canada the nation/country/state did not send troops.
Did individual Canadian citizens enlist with the US or Australian militaries to serve in Vietnam? Yep
Well you got the government point down... but did the look the other way? Not entirely - Canada's diplomatic efforts in resolving the conflict was one of the major arguing points between Canada and the US during the conflict... in fact I believe that LBJ physically threatened Pierre Trudeu because of the political/diplomatic division.
Did Canada donate land to the Vietnam memorial in Windsor? Nope - Windsor, ON the city allowed private individuals to purchase the land at a severely reduced cost for the memorial... they couldn't donate it or the federal government and DND would have launched a legal injunction.
Thing is this isn't the first time the issue of recognizing citizens who served in a foreign conflict under a foreign flag... and in the other two cases no memorial was erected either, nor was veteran status awarded to the combatants . The other two conflicts besides Vietnam were of course the US Civil War and the Spanish Civil War, [/B]
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