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Originally posted by amanda6035
Exactly. Liberals want us to be taxed to death to pay for welfare and crap like that. I think what it's saying is that because taxes are so high, it prevents a minority from crawling out of the hole. *I'm not saying it's right, and my explanation for this one might be wrong, but thats the way I understand it*
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Your explanation is wrong - you're basing this generalization on the basic difference in intrinsic value of money. Essentially, the first dollar someone makes is more important than the last dollar - or, more properly, the further away from the poverty line someone is, the less each individual dollar above that line is 'worth' in general terms.
Certain across-the-board taxes would thusly affect the poor far more, due to this definition. You cannot argue that 'liberals want us to be taxed to death to pay for welfare and crap' without showing me proof.
Also, if your assertion is that governmental programs are somehow tacit inferences that minorities 'need help' from the government, you are thus stating that minorities are the primary beneficiaries of these programs. Until you can show the accounting that states that these programs do not, in fact, offset the 'increased cost' to the poor, then your argument holds no water.
The onus for this particular proof is on you.
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Originally posted by amanda6035
I dunno about the "government monopoly" but when you think about the "good" schools, etc etc, there arent very many minorities in them. People, before you start bashing everythign I'm saying, understand where I am coming from. I can tell you from experience that I went to a VERY GOOD high school, Georgia School of Excellence, etc etc. There were, on the other hand, schools that were MOSTLY minority (if you were white, you were THE minority). Of course, alot of this has to do with the way the school district lines are drawn. Minoirites (at least here in the metroatlanta area) tend to live in close proximity to one another, therefore, most of the kids go to the same school. Maybe thats the monopoly AXiD670 - the way the district lines are drawn, "Keep all the minorities out of our white school" or whatever.
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"When you think about it" you're looking more and more out of touch - I would in fact infer that 'most the good schools' are outside of the 'government monopoly' by virtue of being private.
Regardless, these kind of baseless assumptions do NOT in fact make the point on the shirt true.
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Originally posted by amanda6035
Affirmative action blows. If I were a white male with 10 times the qualifications as a minority, AA prevents me from getting the job, which is total crap. Again, the way the statement is written on the shirt is true - democrats thrive on Affirmative Action...if they truly thought that minorities were "equal" then everyone would be treated equally, instead of giving special help to those of color, or those who were women.
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The point of Affirmative Action is that people be treated, on the whole and overall, exactly equally, contrary to your point. I will concede that the implementation is not exactly grand, and I've argued against AA for this very reason on this very board. With that caveat, you're still shooting blanks here.
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Originally posted by amanda6035
Liberal policies, in general, such as AA, etc etc etc, prevent minorities from moving forward. Because liberal policies thrive on hand outs and "gimme gimme gimme" crap. It's like....let me think of a good example....sort of like a child who is grown to be dependent on their parents, rather than learning how to be independent and take care of themselves. It's liek the parents have treated that child in such a way, and molded that child to believe that he or she cant survive without the parents, so that child is too afraid to venture out into the world on their own.
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Do you have anything besides a tired, cliched anecdote to support this point? Can you prove to me that 'Liberal policies' prevent minorities from moving forward? Even better - can you provide me a 'Conservative' policy that will enable minorities to move forward?
Can you really separate the effects of these policies on minorities from those effects on whites of similar socioeconomic status? If you can, I'm sure everyone on the planet would love to see it . . .
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Originally posted by amanda6035
I didnt say you had to like my answers, my answers might not be right, but thats the way I perceive them to be. That's why I find it SO FUNNY. Because it is playing on the irony of what liberalism actually is. It's a satire shirt, yeah, thats it.
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Hey you don't have to like my answers, but you can't act like these points are true until you address them. That's why I find your posts SO FUNNY. Because it is playing on the irony of politics: that everyone is an expert at THEIR OPINION, and loves to pass an opinion as fact. It's a walking cliche, yeah that's what your posts have become.
-RC
--Registered Republican 1999-present