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Originally posted by a.e.B.O.T.
there is no reason to be mean... Both sides are just arguing the same damn thing over and over... both being stubborn... so dont make fun of my attempt to hault and already finished discussion and in such a rude manner
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Awww. Sensitive
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Originally posted by SirHornyToad
Yea, because noones ever messed up and not made grades because they were partying it up 5 nights a week. In life you make sacrafices and if an org asks you to not drink during a period of education then honestly I think that not only is that a good thing but even more its for thier own good. Rules like this weren't created for the one person that maybe once will stop at a resturant and have dinner and beer with it, rather these rules are in place for the 3 or 4 other pledges that are going to go and party every night of the week when they should be focusing on thier school work and thier pledging assignments/information.
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A. If pledges are underage, they will not likely have the resources to be partying five nights a week, unless your own brothers are supplying this alcohol to them. And in that case, I would suggest that they stop
B. Instead of making a rule that infringes upon the rights of those who DO have a sense of moderation, why not rely on your internal standards procedures? Hopefully if you chose wisely during selection, you would aim to avoid new members who drink to excess and neglect their studies and responsibilities- but we all know this isn't always possible. So why wouldn't the pledgemaster/new member educator/head of standards take the responsibility of loosely monitoring the grades, class attendance, nights out, alcohol consumed of the pledges? If someone begins to show signs of a problem that might eventually effect their GPA or their work within your org., you could then sit them down and have a talk with them about the consequences of their actions and then ask them to slow down on the drinking. This way, the conversation about alcohol abuse comes from BROTHERLY CONCERN, not dictating what pledges may and may not do.