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Originally posted by jubilance1922
I can only speak for myself, and I wouldn't get on you for that. Its up to each individual org to say what is appropriate.
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My point exactly, and THAT is where the idolatry comes into play, where one places a higher value of the letters over the value of the item itself. I mean, I can't use a 15 cent disposable pen or a 7 cent pencil or a 2 dollar coffee mug because it has a certain org's letters on it? Take away the letters, and it would be a plain old pencil/pen or coffee mug. That is the ridiculousness I am hearing from some members and that is why I call it idolatry.
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So if XYZ says non-members can't use pens, then that member of XYZ shouldn't give you that pen to write with. That's different from a ABC buying a XYZ mug specifically for their own use.
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Perhaps XYZ should exercise some conventional wisdom and use some discretion by stating as protocol that letters/sheild are not to be used on such items as pencils, pens, mugs, and umbrellas. In other words, use them on items that non-members will be unlikely to have access to for their own use. That protects your letters in a major way and increases assurance that non-members will not use it for their own purposes.