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Old 08-06-2005, 11:44 PM
kddani kddani is offline
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Originally posted by blueangel
Yes, we certainly do disagree on a lot of levels. I did not "twist" her words.. she said there is nothing against the TOS about being hateful. Maybe your definition of "hateful" is
Care to address anything that I said in my earlier post in this thread? The thread that VERY explicitly outline the non-personal reasons why so many of us have a problem here? Or do you want to keep on trying to stir up even more trouble? That seems to happen frequently whenever someone posts valid points, they are ignored and glossed over on the way to arguing something that's more fun. Or the poster who ignores them knows they have no valid arguments against what was posted.

You know, i've really tried not to say anything harsh to you, because I know your heart is in the right place, but you keep going on about it.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES ON BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. You don't know everything that has been said or what has been done and tried to resolve this. There have been a number of people, mods and nonmods, who have had issues with this forum for a long time, nothing just happened.

MODS ARE NOT PAID, WE ARE VOLUNTEERS.

MODS ONLY HAVE POWER IN THE FORUMS THEY MOD- ex. I only have "power" in the KD forum and Events forum. In any other forum I am just like any other poster.

YOU ARE TAKING QUOTES OUT OF CONTEXT AND TWISTING THEM TO SUIT YOUR NEEDS. Nothing was wrong with what AXOAlum said. She's also out of town right now and not here to defend herself. Though I wish she were because i'm sure she'd have quite a lot to say.

THIS FORUM HAS NOT BEEN "RUNNING WELL THE WAY IT IS". There have been issues brought up both publicly and privately that i'm sorry you weren't around for or didn't notice. But don't talk about things which you know nothing about. For instance, a little while ago said moderator made a list of orgs and names of GCers that were willing to help people with AI. Thing is, none of us EVER said we'd help GCers with AI and he did not have our permission to post our names.
Another example (of many) is when there was information that was being discussed that members of the org or orgs in question thought was very private and regarding their membership selection. The post was asked to be deleted by many many members and it was not, though said moderator knew what was going on. It was only removed when LXAAlum got online. LXAAlum does a good job and no one has a problem with him, but he isn't around often enough to fully mod the forum.

* Last time I checked, we lived in a country that prided ourselves on freedom of speech. Though this is a private message board, we do follow the first amendment for the most part. Expressing things that may be hateful is a part of our country. It's okay. You don't have to agree with it. No one asked you to agree with anything. But GCers, mods and non mods alike, have a right to express themselves in the way that they see fit.

* That's nice that you like to sail and have a message board about it. But that has nothing to do with GC. Just because you do things one way there doesn't mean it's right for here and doesn't mean that your way is the only way or "right". Just like your org does things one way while mine may do it another.

And my final thought for the moment, LEAVE RITUAL OUT OF IT. You do NOT know my ritual and you have NO right to speak of my ritual or anyone else's.

I can tell you that your mention of ritual specifically pissed A LOT of people off and was pretty offensive. Especially since, as someone else said "you've been a member for about five minutes." It's great that you're enthusiastic about being greek, but you don't necessarily know how things are done and you have NO place whatsoever to tell other greeks how they should and should not live up to their ritual. Worry about your own sisters, that's fine. But it's not your place to tell other GLOs what their values are or aren't.

Besides pissing off people by your reference to our rituals, your frequent use of the word "lynching" in comparison to the debates going on is also offensive. What's going on on a freaking message board is nothing to even be compared to the history of lynchings. You do realize you have African-American sisters, don't you?

So how about responding to some valid points and actual arguments instead of complaining about the moderators, etc.? By the way, in case you haven't noticed, there's a hell of a lot more people than just some of us mods that have felt this way about the AI forum and that have expressed it. So whatever the reasons for your personal attacks, address the actual issues!

ETA: I just realized that you and I had it out in a thread in the D&R forum a few months ago. Back then you brought up other people's rituals too. Get over it. Other GLO's rituals are NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS and you have NO right to bring them up or try to use them.
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Last edited by kddani; 08-07-2005 at 09:52 AM.