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Originally posted by blueangel
Absolutely! As long as the moderators follow the rules that they were empowered to enforce-- whether on this forum or any other area in GC. However.. they are clearly violating the terms of services with their personal attacks and this very public lynching.
You, a moderator, made the comment on another thread , "Sorry, but hateful isn't a violation of the TOS. If it were, then I think that GC would be a very empty place. " Can you please explain what you meant by this?
A few other random comments:
"Growing a thicker spine" means to stop being passive and stand up for what you believe in. I'm curious as to why the poster would say that since I've repeatedly stood up on this subject. Does the poster consider me passive because I have not resorted to personal attacks?
Or...does the poster mean to say, "Grow a thicker SKIN?" If this is the case, does she feel I should grow a "thinner spine" and just take the personal attacks? 
The same poster also made this comment earlier in the thread: " If anyone ever thinks poorly of my Fraternity because of something I might have said, well...you know where they can go."
A question for all... Do we not represent our GLOs at all times? Do we not live our ritual and the ideals at all time? Or is it something we pull out only when it's convenient?
Does banding together to attack people represent the ideals of your organization? Would national headquarters be proud to read your posts?
Another poster made the comment: "Attacking people. Sister, please. Let me provide a definition of ad hominem (i.e., an ad hominem attack): attacking an opponent’s motives or character rather than the policy or position they maintain. I don't see anywhere in this thread..."
Perhaps she missed the comment regarding "growing a thicker spine." Is that not an attack on a person's "character?"
And... how about this one: "This is not about the AI Thread - its about you being the most attention starved person on GC."
Isn't "attention starved" an attack on a person's character?
As an aside, I've also noted that nobody has yet to answer my questions in which I posted earlier. Perhaps someone here would like to tackle them?
And they are:
"As I understand it, John appoints moderators. If he "isn't around much," then what is accomplished by this public lynching? Isn't he the one who appoints moderators? Do you not agree that taking any complaints directly and privately to John would have accomplished more?"
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Where to begin, where to begin?
First of all, I'd be careful about bandying about the term "lynching," because it has very specific associations and mental images that go along with it. Posters are expressing their concerns about how this forum is being moderated. Last time I checked, no one is grabbing a rope and heading for the nearest tree with anyone.
Second, if we banned everyone who was controversial or bombastic because that violated the TOS, no one would be left because I think that EVERYONE has done that at one time or another. Just because we are vehement and passionate in our disagreements doesn't mean that John will ban people. I think that's what AOIIalum meant. If I'm wrong, AOIIalum, please correct me.
Third, OTW was telling you to grow a thicker spine because you posted that people needed to be "suspended" because of "personal attacks." But as far as I can see, no one is attacking Tom Earp's character, but rather his style of moderating. BIG DIFFERENCE. In my line of work, people frequently aren't happy with some of the things that I have to do, and they lash out. Hard. If I cried "personal attack" every time someone said something vicious or out of line, I wouldn't last a day at work! Sometimes you just have to live with the fact that people don't always play nice in the real world or online. Shrug it off and move on--in other words, grow a thicker skin/spine/whatever. That's NOT an attack on your character, that's GOOD ADVICE.
And yes, we represent our Fraternity at all times. And my Founders were progressive women who weren't afraid to speak their minds or voice a different opinion. Just because we are fraternity women doesn't mean we're lemmings! I speak my truth no matter what, and I expect no less from my sisters. Sometimes that means taking off the kid gloves and being brutally direct.
And as a direct response to your question, you are assuming that people have not PMed John and that discussion is not happening about what to do regarding this forum--which is untrue. As to why the threads exist, I think posters are frustrated and expressing that frustration in the most logical manner. But that's just my opinion.