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Old 07-23-2005, 11:50 PM
dznat187 dznat187 is offline
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we are in no way giving over control. deferred rush is just fine for my chapter, in fact it has helped us. i dont see the school as telling us what to do or telling us what our founders wanted ( i guarantee you that most if not all of the npc and nic orgs' founders were dedicated to academics and community/university involvement). dz's founders worked very closely with the administration of their school and much of our organization and ritual and stuff was guided by some members of the administration. this is just us but i feel working with the school is going to get us farther than trying to do our own thing without their support. who's parents are going to want their child to be in a group that is constantly at odds against their university. we are all at college first and foremost for an education, allother experiences are meant to suppliment our education. i just don't see the purpose of my group, personally, in fighting and defying the school when they are willing to help us if we work with them. we are doing what we should and we should not be punished for the acts of others. i feel this new system will really benefit the organizations who are living up to their orgs standards. i forgot to mention that in my explanation. they are going to set up the standards for this system based mostly on the nationals standards. Academics and risk management are a concern from the school's perspective and they will have standards for that-mostly to make sure members are safe and not failing out. i know some people don't like to work with 'the man' or go against what they want to do in order to do what they should, but i guess that is a personal decision and that may or may not have anything to do with the current state of greek life.

also, i agree cu's housing is definately an issue we don't deal with at MU and i was always happy about that. it is a huge liability and also a huge stress-a bad year with recruitment and you cant fill the house, that really sucks. its also not easy from the school's perspective either. our ccd is the greek advisor at F&M inLancaster. they are a private school who just rerecognized their greeks and they are having tons of issues with the condition of the fraternity houses. some were even condemned by the city that added a lot of stress on the school with finding those students other housing etc.

as for ther LXA chapter, the decision was just made after the end of the semester and i don't know if nataionals are closing the chapter. as far as i know they are kicked off campus but i dont know for how long, etc. it sucks cuz they were the best fraternity on our campus. but there are things you can't let happen.... hopefully they can recover from it.

also, i do know the school is working on the new policy to start this fall if posible, but after alot of the issues we had thiss spring, they will have to push it back to the following fall. th eplan is in the works and they have started the eval processes.
and so you know, i am well aware of many of the past issues with greek life, especially stuff covered by the snapper, as i was an editor for all 4 of my years there.

as for the employer example......i meant, if a job required experience or more education, like a doctor or lab tech, it would not be prudent to have an unqualified person in the position putting people at risk, thus an employer might require certain credentials. like the 12 credit rule, as 1st semester freshman have no experience in the college environment. i do feel it is a little backward to allow freshman to join anything but greek orgs heir first semester. but i have yet to hear of working with a student newspaper or radio station or prayer group leading to students failing out or getting hurt. i think that is why administrators are weary of giving greeks everything they want and until we prove that we are just as valuable of an experience as some of these co-curriculars, it is going to be hard for us. i see greek life in general as having gone down hill for many years and at this point we can work with administrators, each other and our national offices to improve overall and return to being an unstopable, unquestionable force in higher ed or we can decide not to, but where is that going to take us?

Last edited by dznat187; 07-24-2005 at 12:06 AM.
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