I don't recall saying that they passed security measures the first time, I think someone else did. I don't know enough about the security measures to comment on htat.
The reason I made analogies to the Black/White issue is because the relationships between Whites and Blacks set the tone, and are related to racism of all people, no matter what country they are from. Like the quote I have below, if we don't understand how White supremacy is working through this (and other) situation, then everything else that we do understand about it is just off.
Do I honestly believe the gov't has no proof...well I don't know. NOne of us do. But American history shows that this government will do what it wants, when it wants, proof be damned. Look at the cases I mentioned in previous posts...What proof did the government have in any of those cases? Have they ever needed proof? No. Never. And we as citizens rarely learn from our history (or learn our history at all) so we don't even stop to question. in fact, other countries are beginning to demand proof as well. GErmany, Pakistan, and other European countries have finally realized that "bin Laden hates freedom" just is not going to cut it as far as proof is concerned. I am glad that some countries are at least aware of the fact that war should not be predicated on emotional, logicless arguments.
As far as coming togeher to stop killing ourselves, I agree. In addition, we need to understand that we are killing ourselves because we are still suffering from the effects of slavery.
Here's why I say that: If you have twin daughters, alike in every way humanly possible, except one has brown hair, and one has black. Say you treat the black haired girl with allof the respect and dignity that human life deserves. You pour every ounce of goodness that is within you, into the black haired child. You giver her every opportunity she will ever need to be a success and happy in whatever she decides to do w/ her life.
Then you have the brown haired girl. And you do the exact opposite w/ her. You beat her, allow her to be raped, destroy her very ability to see herself as human. YOu deny her every opportunity, you kill her spirit.
THen the girls turn 18, and you realize you made a mistake in treating them the way you did for all of their lives. So you apologize, admit you were wrong, and say to the girls "Girls, I was wrong, and I'm sorry. NOw go out and be productive citizens."
Now do you think that those girls are going to be able to live a happy life? Even the Black haired girl is going to be twisted and warped from this experience and never truly be able to see the brown haired sister as an equal. And she will act accordingly and teach her children to do the same. The brown haired girl...well her life is essentially ruined and she will constantly battle to see herself as human.
Saying that to say, that this is what happened to us as Black people for 400 years. And after slavery, we did not get counseling to address our psychoses, neither did we recieve access to all of the things (tangible and intangible) that the other "sister" got. We still have trouble seeing ourselves as human--so understandibly, "coming together" is not going to be enough to stop us from killing ourselves. If we don't go to the root of the problem, then we'll face another century of surface discussions that don't address the issues that Black people face.
Sorry for the length, but it is an important issue. Yes the Bible says that, so the the Qu'ran, and every other holy book. And eachof them also say something to the effect of "Vengence is mine, turn the other cheek". But I think to simply use any of those scriptures and pray in ignorance for our own version of justice is unhealthy.
Don't you even want to know WHY someone would do something like this to other people? Maybe if we get to the root we will find that America has sewn seeds of destruction throughout the world for the past 400 years. At some point the world will provide a harvest. Again, sorry for the length, but I really appreciate the chance to discuss topics like these with other intelligent Black women. It is a rare opportunity inded. By the way, for the rest of the non-Western world, America has enjoyed its own version of open season. When will we stop defining ourselves by man-made borders and start to see the larger, human issue?
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Originally posted by sequel_1913
I have been trying to figure out how we got on black and white also. But LQ you say that they passed security measures and nothing was detected, but that was the case the first time and now thousands are dead so what do you suggest we do. Let us be honest with each other here, do you actually believe that the US has no proof and if they did they would tell us. When did the gov't get so open and honest, b/c no one told me. And I also am a follower of Christ and until we as a people can come together and stop killing ourself we WILL always be on the bottom. Does the Bible not say an eye for an eye, so if we ignore what has happened and not do any and all things possible to find those responsible it will be open season on America. And whether or not this is my, your or their America, I live here and I want it as safe as possible. No matter how they do it.
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