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What happend in Arizona was not really all that progressive...it was more of a long standing battle between brothers and sisters that ended up in a recognized co-ed chapter- a precurser to the image of our fraternity that now confuses many people today...it's happend at many chapters...I even know of a few where this family quarrel has brought its Psi chapter to the verge of extinction; folks just got tired of arguing with supposed family...and Title IX and all other non social fraternal org. regulations help keep things the way they are (whether the fraternity voted to go Co-ed or not..and yes i know it did)

As for the whole its up to the director as to if he can establish both orgs or not...THAT IS NOT ENTIERLY TRUE.....he/she may want to establish both orgs but the university can tell him NO...that's a problem at a couple of universities now..they have Psi or Tbs and the university will not allow them to establish the other due the orgs being Co-ed..they see it as why have two orgs that serve the same purpose.....

The issue of freemasonry and our fraternity is actually important (some things u think are all ours aren't)....it is a shared history with just about every other fraternity in this and other countries ...from a choice of Colors, grips, and secret passwords; it does stems from that particular organization...its just that some chapters recognize this and, well -some don't ( no big loss to them)