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Originally posted by Empress0105
please pardon if this is silly, but
if that is purely the case, then why do APO chapters that are rechartering HAVE to have a certain perentage of women to be reactivated? what if girls just don't wanna do APO at a certain school, does that mean they can't come back to campus
i can kinda see the logic in what you said, but speaking as an undergrad, most student activity offices could give a rats butt about who joins what org as long as they meet university requirements. there is a distinct difference between telling chapters they have to let both genders if both genders are trying to join, and forcing them to admit a certain amount of each gender in
when laws against racial discrimination came out, i didn't see any org force it's chapters/colonies to admit a certain percentage of minorities or else they can't operate...
maybe im misunderstanding you though...please enlighten me
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There is no set quota. If we had an extension effort at Virginia Military Institute which has, as of 2003, had 1238 men and 68 women, I believe that such an extension group *could* charter with only men, however the local staff would try to be sure that the recruitment did not deliberately exclude the female cadets. Now that *doesn't* mean that the chapter specifically has to try to recruit at least one female, it just means that that the rush materials says "all cadets welcome" instead of "all men welcome" for example.
However at a school which is 40% male and 60% female, the staff would be *much* more incredulous if an effort contained only men.
These comments would be similarly true if the genders in them were reversed. The fraternity has had over the last 10 years, as far as I know, *one* single gender charter group at a co-ed school. That was Carlow College which is 99% female with an all-female chartering group.
My *personal* rule of thumb is that for *most* characteristics that govern student interaction, that percentages in the group (race, gender, college w/i a university, etc) shouldn't be off from that of the school by more than 25%. If they are, that doesn't necessarily mean that the group is unsuitable to charter, but it does mean that the group should ask whether students who might be interested in an under-represented group don't have the opportunity.
You are right that most student activities offices don't care, but that laxness, doesn't necessarily mean the National Fraternity required to be at that laxness.
As for Race. I'll put Alpha Phi Omega's track record on race up against any of the NIC Fraternities, many of them did not allow blacks until the 1960s and Alpha Phi Omega had it's first chapter at an HBCU in 1947.
Why should Alpha Phi Omega be limited by what the NIC fraternities do?
Sorry for rambling, I'm doing this at about 1AM.