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Old 04-25-2005, 03:22 PM
TSteven TSteven is offline
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Originally posted by Little E
It probably depends on the group and how they present their relationship to that parent organization.
I am aware of the following scenario.

AB Chapter of XYZ fraternity was suspended due to the indiscretions of one or a few members. Those "bad" members were booted out and the remaining members remained in good standing. However, they had to move out of their house and could not participate or act as an official chapter of XYZ for a year. (Might have been two.)

The members still hung out, some rented a house together that served as a gathering place, and perhaps they even had meetings/ritual. (Don't know for sure.) They more or less functioned as a chapter for the suspended year yet just nothing official.

They continued to meet other men on campus and may have even recruited some of them with the understanding that they might become members the next year. When the next school year began, and the chapter was reinstated (recognized) by both the campus and XYZ HQ, those "pledges" (for lack of a better word) who were illegible, were now officially able to pledge XYZ.

I am not aware if their HQ knew about any of this. But frankly, I would venture to guess that some HQs might condone - via turning a blind eye - this kind of scenario. It would not only keep the brotherhood together (if appropriate) but also might help with recruiting new members for the following year.

But this scenario works because everything is on the up and up. The potential new members *understand* that they are not members yet, and that they still have to officially pledge the following year.

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Originally posted by Little E
I thought there was a storyn on here a while ago where some group was telling pnms that they were xyz, when they actually had their charter revoked and were operating illegally. But that could have just been a scary dream...?
I can see how in some cases, "new members" might be duped into thinking they are joining the inter/national GLO. Especially since they wouldn't know anything about ritual, costs, structure etc. of the group/fraternity until after the fact.

But what about the stuff the members *should* get from HQ? Pledge pins, badges, manuals etc. I guess an outlaw group might retain some of these things, or flat out lie, but I just don't see how they could get away with it. And does the campus and or IFC/NPC Greek Life crack down? Report this rogue group to the parent organization?
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