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Originally posted by Beryana
The celibacy of priests, women in the priesthood, etc those are issues that WILL NOT CHANGE. The closest to the Roman Catholic Church are the Eastern Orthodox Churches. Yes, they do allow men who are married to be priests - but you cannot marry AFTER you are a priest. You also cannot be a Bishop if you are married. You also really cannot compare the RCC and the Protestant denominations on these issues because there are too many differences between them to even know where to begin. This 'push' for women to be priests is a VERY recent thing brought about by post-Vatican II disgruntled sisters/nuns (there is a difference between a sister and a nun by the way) and this ultra-feminist nonsense.
Actually Catholics are still supposed to fast on Fridays - and if you do not, you are supposed to make some sacrifice in its place.
To not agree with the teaching of the Catholic Church is technically to be a Protestant, not a Catholic. Once again, you either believe in the Catholic Church and all she teaches or you don't. There is no gray area. There is no picking and choosing what you want to believe at any time that suits you (once again, moral relativism). You cannot call yourself a Catholic and blatantly go against Her teachings. Those teachings are based on the Word of God through His Son, Jesus.
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While it's fine and dandy that you are a theologian (Orthodox - which does carry it's own vias within the faith) you really need to brush up on your Church history - specifically the early Church.
Again priests, bishops and what-not where allowed to marry, but the pratice and rules to be followed pretty much came down to being chaste - which was and is technically the "proper" Catholic relationship anyways. Now the role of celibacy took greater promenence and became the mandated social/relational norm for the clergy thanks to monastisim....
As for ultra-feminist nonsense... you're begining to sound a wee bit like Jerome now
The push for women having more say in the Church is as old as the Church itself - one of that Constantine had the Church sort out (along with the various herasies at the time)... but it never really went away. I know it cropped up during the Pelgian herasy... and again in some Magdalene convents in Northern France and the British Isles - which a one large part of the reason why Gregory denouced Mary Magdalene; it removed support for the Magdalene convents.
Fasting doesn't mean the absence of food - but in the Church's case a refraining from meat (which is why Fish & Chip places do great business on Fridays here in Toronto). That practice has been around for well over a century - St. Patrick and St. Columba had to deal with the political and social ramifications of not partaking in some feasts - the nobles of the Dal Radia took it as a slight to have their hospitality refused (although more problematic in Columba's case being a noble himself).
You can disagree with teachings of the Church and not be "cast out" (although some hard-core folks would like to think so) - to disagree is not to dissent.
.... surprising how this discussion brings back memories of living at the chapter and attending Mass next door at the Opus Dei residence...