Soldiers sues US for Religious Harrssment
 

JUNCTION CITY, Kansas (AP) -- Like hundreds of young men joining the Army in recent years, Jeremy Hall professes a desire to serve his country while it fights terrorism.



But the short and soft-spoken specialist is at the center of a legal controversy. He has filed a lawsuit alleging that he's been harassed and his constitutional rights have been violated because he doesn't believe in God. The suit names Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

"I'm not in it for cash," Hall said. "I want no one else to go what I went through."

Known as "the atheist guy," Hall has been called immoral, a devil worshipper and -- just as severe to some soldiers -- gay, none of which, he says, is true. Hall even drove fellow soldiers to church in Iraq and paused while they prayed before meals.

"I see a name and rank and United States flag on their shoulder. That's what I believe everyone else should see," he said.

Hall, 23, was raised in a Protestant family in North Carolina and dropped out of school. It wasn't until he joined the Army that he began questioning religion, eventually deciding that he couldn't follow any faith.

But he feared how that would look to other soldiers.

"I was ashamed to say that I was an atheist," Hall said.

It eventually came out in Iraq in 2007, when he was in a firefight. Hall was a gunner on a Humvee, which took several bullets in its protective shield. Afterward, his commander asked whether he believed in God, Hall said.

"I said, 'No, but I believe in Plexiglas,' " Hall said. "I've never believed I was going to a happy place. You get one life. When I die, I'm worm food."

The issue came to a head when, according to Hall, a superior officer, Maj. Freddy J. Welborn, threatened to bring charges against him for trying to hold a meeting of atheists in Iraq. Welborn has denied Hall's allegations.

Hall said he had had enough but feared that he wouldn't get support from Welborn's superiors. He turned to Mikey Weinstein and the Military Religious Freedom Foundation.

Weinstein is the foundation's president and a U.S. Air Force Academy graduate. He had sued the Air Force for acts he said illegally imposed Christianity on students at the academy, though that case was dismissed. He calls Hall a hero.

"The average American doesn't have enough intestinal fortitude to tell someone to shut up if they are talking in a movie theater," Weinstein said. "You know how hard it is to take on your chain of command? This isn't the shift manager at KFC."

Hall was in Qatar when the lawsuit was filed September 18 in federal court in Kansas City, Kansas. Other soldiers learned of it, and he feared for his own safety. Once, Hall said, a group of soldiers followed him, harassing him, but no one did anything to make it stop.

The Army told him it couldn't protect him and sent him back to Fort Riley. He resumed duties with a military police battalion. He believes that his promotion to sergeant has been blocked because of his lawsuit, but he is a team leader responsible for two junior enlisted soldiers.

No one with Fort Riley, the Army or that Defense Department would comment about Hall or the lawsuit. Each issued statements saying that discrimination will not be tolerated regardless of race, religion or gender.

"The department respects [and supports by its policy] the rights of others to their own religious beliefs, including the right to hold no beliefs," said Eileen Lainez, a spokeswoman for the Department of Defense.

All three organizations said existing systems help soldiers "address and resolve any perceived unfair treatment."

Lt. Col. David Shurtleff, a Fort Riley chaplain, declined to discuss Hall's case but said chaplains accommodate all faiths as best they can. In most cases, religious issues can be worked out without jeopardizing military operations.

"When you're in Afghanistan and an IED blows up a Humvee, they aren't asking about a wounded soldier's faith," Shurtleff said.

Hall said he enjoys being a team leader but has been told that having faith would make him a better leader.

"I will take care of my soldiers. Nowhere does it say I have to pray with my soldiers, but I do have to make sure my soldiers' religious needs are met," he said





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Ok..I am slightly confused, this was first reported back in April and is being reported again...but in any case, if this wasn't talked about before...what are your thoughts? A misguided disgruntled soldier or does he have a case?

I didn't read anything that made me think he was harassed. He's getting the typical response that athiests get and nothing over the top. I may've skimmed over the good stuff, I guess.

He said himself that he was "ashamed" to admit that he's athiest. If he's ashamed then they're supposed to blow smoke up his ass, for what? He's a newbie athiest, of course he has thin skin.

(Maybe not the "average American," but I know quite a few Americans with the intestinal fortitude to tell people to be quiet in the theater...my father and I tell people to be quiet everytime it applies--only had a minor problem once. :))

He has a case. I hope he takes it to them.

Very, very difficult to tell from news stories like this, which are somewhat notorious for (1) getting facts wrong, (2) not being even-handed with the facts and (3) failing to understand the legal issues as opposed to, say, the emotional ("that doesn't seem fair") issues. I'd like to see the actual pleadings.

Just based on what I've seen, though, I'd guess he'll have a hard row to hoe.

Thats fucked up, I hope he wins

I have to agree, and I don't think he has a case.

LOL

I tend to agree - there are segments or units of the US Armed Forces that are very "evangelical", at least in my experience... so I can understand the harrassment and stigma that he may have experienced given some of my dealings back in the day.

However that being said he is the accuser so it's up to him to demonstrate proof that this happened, because while there are segments that are very "evangelical" there are equally very pluralistic segments as well.