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kapsigcub 06-18-2008 03:05 PM

Naked frat boys run wild in the street
 
The tagline is from CNN, not me.

Why are there so many Phillippine groups that insist on mimicking the letters and symbols of groups already in existence? Why does CNN call these clowns "frat boys"?

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/wor...s.naked.run.ap

33girl 06-18-2008 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kapsigcub (Post 1669914)
Why does CNN call these clowns "frat boys"?

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/wor...s.naked.run.ap


Probably because some of them had letters on.

WinniBug 06-18-2008 03:09 PM

I wouldn't exactly say they were "running wild"...it looked more like a parade
And was it just me, or was that video the same thing twice?

CBU Jeff 06-18-2008 05:18 PM

I like how you see Greek letters maybe twice throughout the entire film.

Kato 06-18-2008 05:32 PM

It looked like some kind of small demonstration to me. I wonder what that large emblem they paraded before them represented. Whatever it is, they probably all belonged to it, or were representing it right then.

WinniBug 06-18-2008 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CBU Jeff (Post 1669996)
I like how you see Greek letters maybe twice throughout the entire film.

I think, for the most part, that they were trying to blur out the Greek letters, and they slipped through a couple times.

emb021 06-18-2008 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kapsigcub (Post 1669914)
The tagline is from CNN, not me.

Why are there so many Phillippine groups that insist on mimicking the letters and symbols of groups already in existence? Why does CNN call these clowns "frat boys"?

Uh, I took a look at the video.

they aren't "mimicking the letters and symbols of groups already in existence".

They are members of Alpha Phi Omega Philippines. APO-Ph is a separate organization from APO-USA, but uses the same emblem, etc. I understand that there is a strong GLO system in the Philippines, but a little different from the US. ('batches' instead of pledge classes or lines, etc)

lucgreek 06-18-2008 07:56 PM

They're APO, I wouldn't exactly call them "Frat boys."

(Or a fraternity at that. They're rather a group of people who are interested in service, which imo is not a definition of brotherhood or enough to make you considered a fraternity. Just my two cents.)

Senusret I 06-18-2008 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kapsigcub (Post 1669914)
Why are there so many Phillippine groups that insist on mimicking the letters and symbols of groups already in existence?

I don't know, but Alpha Phi Omega - Philippines is not one of them. As my Brother already explained, they are different administratively but are part of the International Council of Alpha Phi Omega.

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Originally Posted by Kato (Post 1670008)
It looked like some kind of small demonstration to me.

It's called an Oblation Run, a tradition since 1977. In a nutshell, the members of APO-Phils. (members, not pledges) take part in this demonstration to protest something or to commemorate something.


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Originally Posted by lucgreek (Post 1670086)
They're APO, I wouldn't exactly call them "Frat boys."

(Or a fraternity at that. They're rather a group of people who are interested in service, which imo is not a definition of brotherhood or enough to make you considered a fraternity. Just my two cents.)

You are not familiar with APO-Phils. Not only is it different from the USA counterpart, but I would very much agree that it is just as fraternal as the rest of the organizations in the Philippine university system.

Your narrow definition of fraternity is unfortunate, but not surprising.

kapsigcub 06-18-2008 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by emb021 (Post 1670063)
Uh, I took a look at the video.

they aren't "mimicking the letters and symbols of groups already in existence".

Golly. You're right, I imagined the other groups who mimic.
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/announcement.php?f=90

I said "so many Phillippine groups", not just these guys in particular. RIF.

emb021 06-19-2008 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lucgreek (Post 1670086)
They're APO, I wouldn't exactly call them "Frat boys."

(Or a fraternity at that. They're rather a group of people who are interested in service, which imo is not a definition of brotherhood or enough to make you considered a fraternity. Just my two cents.)

Excuse me, but some of us had to go thru this sort of ignorant nonsense in another thread.

APO IS a Fraternity. Being about service doesn't change that. Brotherhood is a big part of what we are. Our Founder was a SAE and Mason, and fully understood the concept of Brotherhood.

APO-Ph is co-ed, but what they do is have separate Fraternity Chapters for Brothers and Sorority Chapters for Sisters. Their full title is "Alpha Phi Omega International Service Fraternity & Sorority".

I met several APO-Ph Brothers at the World Scout Jamboree. They full understand the concept of Brotherhood and made me and other APO-US Brothers feel welcome.

CBU Jeff 06-19-2008 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by emb021 (Post 1670237)
Excuse me, but some of us had to go thru this sort of ignorant nonsense in another thread.

APO IS a Fraternity. Being about service doesn't change that. Brotherhood is a big part of what we are. Our Founder was a SAE and Mason, and fully understood the concept of Brotherhood.

APO-Ph is co-ed, but what they do is have separate Fraternity Chapters for Brothers and Sorority Chapters for Sisters. Their full title is "Alpha Phi Omega International Service Fraternity & Sorority".

I met several APO-Ph Brothers at the World Scout Jamboree. They full understand the concept of Brotherhood and made me and other APO-US Brothers feel welcome.


Just my two cents then...If your "founder" was an SAE then he would have known better, according to fraternity law, to start another fraternal organization, in USA or abroad

33girl 06-19-2008 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CBU Jeff (Post 1670243)
Just my two cents then...If your "founder" was an SAE then he would have known better, according to fraternity law, to start another fraternal organization, in USA or abroad

He didn't start it abroad.

I don't feel like getting into this for the umpteenth time, so read the link.

http://www.apo.org/show/About_Us/His...d_the_Founding

emb021 06-19-2008 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CBU Jeff (Post 1670243)
Just my two cents then...If your "founder" was an SAE then he would have known better, according to fraternity law, to start another fraternal organization, in USA or abroad

He (and our other Founders who were also members of socials) most certainly DID understand fraternity rules. Which is why APO was founded NOT as a social, but as a service fraternity.

Any member of a social may join APO, which is what our Founders wanted. They did not want their membership in APO to affect their membership in their socials.

Considering we've been around for awhile, if this was an issue, I think it would have come up a loooong time ago. So you're a little late to bring this non issue up.

Senusret I 06-19-2008 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CBU Jeff (Post 1670243)
Just my two cents then...If your "founder" was an SAE then he would have known better, according to fraternity law, to start another fraternal organization, in USA or abroad

And what exactly is that fraternity law? He wasn't the only SAE among the founders, either.


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