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stratstudent 04-21-2008 08:04 AM
Legacy
 
Say your brother was a member of the chapter you are rushing, or that your brother is currently a member of another chapter of the same fraternity, do you count as a legacy in either situation?

thank you

Senusret I 04-21-2008 08:09 AM
Too many variables in this scenario:

1) Whether the fraternity in question has a legacy policy of any sort.
2) What being a legacy actually means for the fraternity in question (anything from the courtesy of being invited back once to nearly automatic bidding).
3) Whether the chapter in question elects to acknowledge the legacy procedure.

I suggest that the rushee ask their brother for guidance if looking on the national website yields no answers.

Tom Earp 04-21-2008 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1637324)
Too many variables in this scenario:

1) Whether the fraternity in question has a legacy policy of any sort.
2) What being a legacy actually means for the fraternity in question (anything from the courtesy of being invited back once to nearly automatic bidding).
3) Whether the chapter in question elects to acknowledge the legacy procedure.

I suggest that the rushee ask their brother for guidance if looking on the national website yields no answers.
Good point! In most cases, LXA havfe legacies, but that is not automatic.

The PNM must have the qualities that are needed by the Chapter.

Nothing is "guarenteed" by any GLOs.

bowsandtoes 04-22-2008 02:37 AM
Oh, well, usually we take legacies. Unless the pledge in question turns out to be a real closet-case. Like Fred.

AEPi BP 05-12-2008 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1637437)
Good point! In most cases, LXA havfe legacies, but that is not automatic.

The PNM must have the qualities that are needed by the Chapter.

Nothing is "guarenteed" by any GLOs.
AEPi definitely says that any brother, son, grandson (i think that's it, maybe nephews I don't think cousins) regardless of what chapter the initiated brother is from are guaranteed a bid if they show interest in your chapter.

But as someone said earlier, it def varies by organization. A chapter would be foolish to not follow it's national rules on this policy.

wolffootball37 05-12-2008 11:54 PM
I recently found out I was a legacy to one fraternity at UNT through my two Uncles and cousin (who is actually on the same side of the family so their his uncles too) who were in a chapter it UoF. Now ive already had interest in another chapter already. Is it still smart to check that fraternity out, do i tell them im a legacy, how do i even go about that. I dont want to sound like a dush and be all like "Yeah im a legacy." What if i want to join another chapter? Im just really confused about all this right now. ;)

TexasWSP 05-13-2008 12:46 AM
Haha, 6 Fall rushes?

wolffootball37 05-13-2008 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SouthernFratter (Post 1650369)
Have someone that you're a legacy through send a note to the chapter (usually president and rush chair) recommending you and telling them to be on the lookout for you. Don't tell them yourself that you're a legacy unless they ask why you came by, and then tell them that you're checking out multiple chapters to make sure it's for you and not just your relatives.

And yes, you owe it to yourself, your family, and that fraternity to check out the house you're a legacy at, you don't have to join, but at least have a look.

(I'm not a legacy, but I've been through 6 rushes as a brother now, so I've figured out how rush works)
Alright. Thanks for that! Im going to contact my uncle tomorrow to get a letter sent. Thanks allot.

RU OX Alum 05-13-2008 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AEPi BP (Post 1650347)
AEPi definitely says that any brother, son, grandson (i think that's it, maybe nephews I don't think cousins) regardless of what chapter the initiated brother is from are guaranteed a bid if they show interest in your chapter.

But as someone said earlier, it def varies by organization. A chapter would be foolish to not follow it's national rules on this policy.

not really

sometimes HQ is totally clueless and legacies can definitely have a negative impact on a chapter

AEPi BP 05-13-2008 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1650540)
not really

sometimes HQ is totally clueless and legacies can definitely have a negative impact on a chapter
thats why the rule is that you have to give them a bid, not initiate them.

CrackerBarrel 05-13-2008 12:37 PM
It's stupid to have a national rule, let each chapter write it themselves in their bylaws or just deal with it on the fly. There are plenty of chapters of my house that might as well not be the same fraternity in how different they are. If I had to take a kid because some horrible non-selective chapter bid everyone (including a relative of his) than I would be pissed.

AEPi BP 05-13-2008 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel (Post 1650613)
It's stupid to have a national rule, let each chapter write it themselves in their bylaws or just deal with it on the fly. There are plenty of chapters of my house that might as well not be the same fraternity in how different they are. If I had to take a kid because some horrible non-selective chapter bid everyone (including a relative of his) than I would be pissed.
This brings up an issue i've always wondered. If chapters disregard enough rules that they "might as well not be the same fraternity" why bother being part of a national organization?

CrackerBarrel 05-13-2008 04:15 PM
I'm not saying that they're different in that they disobey rules, just the kind of people they are tends to be completely different and, honestly in many cases, the entire point of being involved with the chapter is completely different.

RU OX Alum 05-14-2008 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by AEPi BP (Post 1650560)
thats why the rule is that you have to give them a bid, not initiate them.
it still costs way more trouble than its ever worth

RU OX Alum 05-14-2008 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by AEPi BP (Post 1650758)
This brings up an issue i've always wondered. If chapters disregard enough rules that they "might as well not be the same fraternity" why bother being part of a national organization?
there will always be things in common but there will always be differences

if everyone was supposed to be in the same fraternity, we'd all go to and pledge at the same university

My alma mater is completely different than other colleges in the state. Someone who would get a bid somewhere else doesn't mean they'd get a bid at my chapter, so why should their relatives be automatic?


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