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naraht 12-07-2007 11:05 PM

Most religious school with active chapter?
 
Does anyone have any suggestions on what the most religious school with an active Alpha Phi Omega chapter. I realize that this is subjective, but I'm looking for some or all of the following: Required chapel, belief in a specific religion or sect of religion as part of admission requirements or being used as one factor in admissions, significant limitation on formation of clubs which espouse political beliefs opposed by the religious group running the school.

There are a number of Catholic schools that have chapters (including Duquesne, Georgetown, Catholic University of America and Loyola (both in Baltimore and Chicago), but I'm not sure that any of them limit their student body to Catholics (other than some grad programs) or Christians.

There are probably other criteria that I haven't thought of...

YiLFS
Randy Finder

Senusret I 12-08-2007 12:31 AM

http://www.cccu.org/ that might be helpful.... a quick glance and cross-reference with the national website suggests that none of these schools has an APO chapter, but I didn't check each school.

jeremypichi 12-08-2007 05:54 PM

For being a Catholic university, Duquesne is a very liberal one. Duquesne does not limit admission to Christians, but Catholicism is obviously the most prominant religion on campus. There are no mandatory church services, but the University is closed on Catholic holidays (All-Saints Day, etc.)

As far as the formation of clubs, a couple of years ago, Duquesne allowed the formation of a Gay Straight Alliance which caused much controvercy among the students and the alumni. On the flip side, earlier this year Duquesne made their radio station WDUQ, which is the local NPR station, return a donation and pull adds from Planned Parenthood, despite the fact that nothing about abortion was stated in the adds that were pulled.

So I think you can scratch Duquesne of the list of most religious school with a chapter of Alpha Phi Omega.

KAPital PHINUst 12-15-2007 11:59 PM

I don't know if this counts as THE most religious, but my alma mater, Capital University (Rho Theta chapter) is probably a candidate. Lutheran school, heavy emphasis on the Lutheran religion without being "overbearing", if that makes any sense.

naraht 12-16-2007 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1559694)
http://www.cccu.org/ that might be helpful.... a quick glance and cross-reference with the national website suggests that none of these schools has an APO chapter, but I didn't check each school.

Well Abelene Christian University is on the list as has a chapter and Carson-Newman is on the list and was declared inactive not too long ago. That list is probably a good place to get started.

There may be some Catholic Universities as religiously strict as some of the schools on that list, but I don't think many. I think that Georgetown and Duquesne can have Jewish Professors, right?

GMUAPhiOAdvisor 12-17-2007 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 1564152)
I think that Georgetown and Duquesne can have Jewish Professors, right?

Not only can G'town have Jewish profs, but they have one of the largest Hillel/Jewish Student Organizations for a private school on the East Coast and are known for their wonderful channukiah (menorah for those who aren't MOT) lighting on campus every year. :)

Not bad for a Jesuit school! :)

Leslie Anne 12-17-2007 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 1559658)
Does anyone have any suggestions on what the most religious school with an active Alpha Phi Omega chapter. I realize that this is subjective, but I'm looking for some or all of the following: Required chapel, belief in a specific religion or sect of religion as part of admission requirements or being used as one factor in admissions, significant limitation on formation of clubs which espouse political beliefs opposed by the religious group running the school.

There are a number of Catholic schools that have chapters (including Duquesne, Georgetown, Catholic University of America and Loyola (both in Baltimore and Chicago), but I'm not sure that any of them limit their student body to Catholics (other than some grad programs) or Christians.

Pepperdine is kinda freaky like that. I don't know if they have a chapter of APO though. Have you considered just locking yourself in a closet?

naraht 12-17-2007 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Leslie Anne (Post 1564575)
Pepperdine is kinda freaky like that. I don't know if they have a chapter of APO though. Have you considered just locking yourself in a closet?

Pepperdine once did have a chapter. Chi Delta chapter activated in 1970 and went inactive in 1983.

I'm curious as to your reasons for asking if I should just lock myself in a closet. I'm Jewish, and went to a fairly areligious school (Carnegie-Mellon University in Pittsburgh). I'm curious about this for a couple of reasons. First, I recognize that at this point, it appears that we have more strongly religious schools in the list of inactive schools than the active ones and was wondering if looking to see which strongly religious schools remain might help figure out some tendencies. Second, I want to know these schools in regards to having information available for those extending to more religious schools where the administration might be more comfortable knowing that we have a chapter a similarly religious school. Third, personal curiousity. I'm an alumnus of a chapter in Pittsburgh and my local experience with chapters has been in Pittsburgh and the Washington DC/Baltimore areas so my experience with religious schools have been with older Catholic schools such as Georgetown, Catholic U of A, Loyola and Duquesne.

GMUAPhiOAdvisor 12-18-2007 07:52 AM

Not a nice comment.......at least in my eyes.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne (Post 1564575)
Pepperdine is kinda freaky like that. I don't know if they have a chapter of APO though. Have you considered just locking yourself in a closet?

Ummm, I'm Jewish too, so I'm hoping that comment was made more in jest than it came across.:confused:

Sister Havana 12-18-2007 08:24 PM

Randy, all this time I had no you were Jewish!

I'm also Jewish. Anyone else? :D

/hijack

Leslie Anne 12-23-2007 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by naraht (Post 1564609)
Pepperdine once did have a chapter. Chi Delta chapter activated in 1970 and went inactive in 1983.

I'm curious as to your reasons for asking if I should just lock myself in a closet. I'm Jewish, and went to a fairly areligious school (Carnegie-Mellon University in Pittsburgh). I'm curious about this for a couple of reasons. First, I recognize that at this point, it appears that we have more strongly religious schools in the list of inactive schools than the active ones and was wondering if looking to see which strongly religious schools remain might help figure out some tendencies. Second, I want to know these schools in regards to having information available for those extending to more religious schools where the administration might be more comfortable knowing that we have a chapter a similarly religious school. Third, personal curiousity. I'm an alumnus of a chapter in Pittsburgh and my local experience with chapters has been in Pittsburgh and the Washington DC/Baltimore areas so my experience with religious schools have been with older Catholic schools such as Georgetown, Catholic U of A, Loyola and Duquesne.

My sincerest apologies! I completely misunderstood your original post and the reason for it.

When you stated what you were looking for I incorrectly assumed that you were looking to attend a college or university that not only had a chapter of APO but also fit the criteria listed. In that context, it seemed to me that you were an extreme Christian looking to isolate yourself away from anyone who wasn't Christian as well as anyone who might in the least bit have different ideas. Thus, my snarky response.

I don't know where my comment may have suggested an anti-semitic stance on my part, however, if you were offended I do apologize. I meant no such thing.

Sincerely,

Leslie Anne

naraht 12-23-2007 08:22 AM

I didn't consider it to be anti-semetic, it was just a statement that I felt was a response to what I thought indicated that I was heavily Christian religious. (Which apparently I did correctly understand from your posting.) Oh, well. I can understand where my initial response might come off as someone looking to join Alpha Phi Omega at the most religious school possible. I probably should have made it more clear when I asked the initial question. Thank you for the apology (and the personal one) No harm...

Randy

GMUAPhiOAdvisor 12-23-2007 08:59 AM

No harm, no foul here either. I'm a little overly-sensitive to anything religious, having been a religious school teacher and the target of some anti-semetic harrasment in college.
I appreciate the apologies, both public and private. Remember, no matter the letters, we're all in this together!

pseudomax 01-12-2008 02:32 PM

Our university is the most religious school here in the Philippines..well i think,,

hahaha!!

naraht 01-12-2008 03:51 PM

I meant USA...
 
But good to know that.

I think that some of very religious schools in the USA were willing to have us when we were all Boy Scouts, but now that we no longer require BSA membership, are less likely to let us back on campus. In general some of the more religious schools are just not willing to have student groups they don't have complete control of, I guess.


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