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James 05-17-2007 09:30 PM

Cheating a different perspective . . .
 
So what do you think? If our cultural approach to cheating was different . . . maybe relationships would work better?

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In America, a lapse in monogamy ruins marriages, bankrupts couples, and condemns families to divorce-court hell. In Europe and elsewhere, infidelity is considered a bump in the road, if it's considered at all. Here's why.
http://www.bestlifeonline.com/cms/pu...t_Caught.shtml

cheerfulgreek 05-18-2007 04:48 AM

I haven't read the article yet. I just skimmed through it, but I'll just post this for now. Cheating is wrong. Period.

Scandia 05-18-2007 06:09 AM

Not to mention STDs and unplanned pregnancies happen- adding an extra complication. But even without them, infidelity is wrong.

PrettyBoy 05-18-2007 07:25 AM

Ditto to the two members above me.

I hate cheaters. They suck.

Coramoor 05-18-2007 08:33 AM

Sounds like the progressive BS that all liberals love.

Just another way to make cheaters feel less guilty-they can justify their actions.

Either you are with a person or not. Plus all the complications, I mean if I found out I was raising another mans kid...the consequences would certainly lead to jail time if caught.

KSig RC 05-18-2007 09:30 AM

There's not really any doubt cheating is "wrong" - so is lying or misrepresenting your income on your taxes, but neither of those are 'deal-breakers' for relationships.

It seems bizarre that we use fidelity as a hyper-important aspect of a person's character, but will readily excuse other actions in a relationship that may show just as much negative light on that person's character.

In that regard, should we up the ante for other actions? Or have we turned our decades-long obsession with monogamy into a latent insecurity?

KSigkid 05-18-2007 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1450007)
There's not really any doubt cheating is "wrong" - so is lying or misrepresenting your income on your taxes, but neither of those are 'deal-breakers' for relationships.

It seems bizarre that we use fidelity as a hyper-important aspect of a person's character, but will readily excuse other actions in a relationship that may show just as much negative light on that person's character.

In that regard, should we up the ante for other actions? Or have we turned our decades-long obsession with monogamy into a latent insecurity?

That's how I feel about it. If someone were to cheat on me, would it affect their trustworthiness? Sure, but it wouldn't be enough to end a relationship unless it were added together with other things (dishonesty about money, etc.).

And yes, before people bring it up, I have been cheated on (in high school and college), so I know how it feels.

OneTimeSBX 05-18-2007 11:13 AM

well what about will smith and his wife? they claim to have an "open" relationship...is it wrong if you both agree to it?

me personally, i dont share lol, so there will be no "do what u wanna do and im gonna do the same" type of relationship for me. i say if you want to have an "open" relationship and persue other people sexually, dont get married!

laylo 05-18-2007 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1450007)
There's not really any doubt cheating is "wrong" - so is lying or misrepresenting your income on your taxes, but neither of those are 'deal-breakers' for relationships.

It seems bizarre that we use fidelity as a hyper-important aspect of a person's character, but will readily excuse other actions in a relationship that may show just as much negative light on that person's character.

In that regard, should we up the ante for other actions? Or have we turned our decades-long obsession with monogamy into a latent insecurity?

I don't see it as an aspect of someone's character, but a behavior that reflects other aspects including: Selfishness, hypocrisy (being willing to cheat on your partner when you'd be devastated if (s)he did it to you), lack of self-control, willingness to lie to your partner's face however many times is necessary to hide the act, keeping your partner in the dark about the terms of your relationship, and most importantly willingness to put his or her life in danger. There's also risking breaking his or her heart and making it incredibly difficult to restore trust. Not too many other actions require these kind of conditions or this many all rolled into one.

RU OX Alum 05-18-2007 11:39 AM

monoghamy, well marriage for that matter in genrenal, ins't really natural

it is wrong to hurt someone's feeling, but it's not wrong in and of itself

laylo 05-18-2007 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1450143)
monoghamy, well marriage for that matter in genrenal, ins't really natural

it is wrong to hurt someone's feeling, but it's not wrong in and of itself


If someone feels this way and therefore never agrees to a monogamous relationship, I can respect that. What I hate is when people use this to justify their hurting, deceiving, and risking the health and lives of their partners; and/or go around whining about how the situation they chose to commit to isn't natural while fully expecting fidelity from their partners.

Sugar08 05-18-2007 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by laylo (Post 1450115)
I don't see it as an aspect of someone's character, but a behavior that reflects other aspects including: Selfishness, hypocrisy (being willing to cheat on your partner when you'd be devastated if (s)he did it to you), lack of self-control, willingness to lie to your partner's face however many times is necessary to hide the act, keeping your partner in the dark about the terms of your relationship, and most importantly willingness to put his or her life in danger. There's also risking breaking his or her heart and making it incredibly difficult to restore trust. Not too many other actions require these kind of conditions or this many all rolled into one.


Soror, you hit the nail on the head. I think a lack of self-control is the side of cheating that bothers me the most... because it applies to almost everything we do. We're constantly being told to "do what makes you happy/what feels good," etc., while having self-control is waaaaaay down on the bottom of the list of positive attributes for which one generally looks. I think it's actually one of the most important.

Simply put, what feels good isn't always good, and what seems like a good idea at the time may become a disaster down the line. A person with self-control (not someone I can claim to be all the time :o) knows this.

So, uh, yeah... cheating is bad. But not just because of the act, but because of what it says about the person cheating.

Rudey 05-18-2007 05:03 PM

If more American men beat their wives, there would be less cheating I bet.

-Rudey
--I'm just saying.

ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl 05-21-2007 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1450007)
There's not really any doubt cheating is "wrong" - so is lying or misrepresenting your income on your taxes, but neither of those are 'deal-breakers' for relationships.

It seems bizarre that we use fidelity as a hyper-important aspect of a person's character, but will readily excuse other actions in a relationship that may show just as much negative light on that person's character.

In that regard, should we up the ante for other actions? Or have we turned our decades-long obsession with monogamy into a latent insecurity?

I agree with you...it's all wrong, but should it be the end of the world?

I think in relationships outside of marriage...dump them, it's not worth the time and trouble if it's not serious. But a marriage with kids should be able to survive that. You're right...there are many people who routinely do things that are just as "bad" and yet the deal breaker is cheating instead of possibly lying or such.

cheerfulgreek 05-21-2007 02:06 AM

No one is perfect. Of course there's gonna be some negative things in a person's character, but why even get involved in a relationship if you're gonna cheat. Just continue to sleep around and just don't commit. I think that's so wrong to play with someones feelings like that.


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