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AZ-AlphaXi 03-22-2007 03:57 PM

USA-Today reports Tubby Smith leaving UK
 
Here's a link to a USA Today article which is reporting that UK basketball coach Tubby Smith is leaving to go to Minnesota.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...innesota_N.htm

Also, Steve Alford is reported to be leaving Iowa for New Mexico

jubilance1922 03-22-2007 04:35 PM

As a Minnesota alum, I am extremely happy about this news :D

valkyrie 03-22-2007 04:45 PM

I hope Iowa gets someone who doesn't suck.

TSteven 03-22-2007 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jubilance1922 (Post 1417298)
As a Minnesota alum, I am extremely happy about this news :D

If true, y'all got a damn good coach!

AOIIalum 03-22-2007 07:01 PM

It's official: http://www.ukathletics.com/index.php...ange_well_id=2

I've been sick for the past week and finally have something to celebrate. Smith is a class act, he just wasn't the right coach for Kentucky.

Steeltrap 03-22-2007 07:04 PM

I am baffled that Alford (who probably is not Bobby Knight Jr. after all) is leaving a major conference to go to New Mexico. That's all.

ISUKappa 03-22-2007 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Steeltrap (Post 1417365)
I am baffled that Alford (who probably is not Bobby Knight Jr. after all) is leaving a major conference to go to New Mexico. That's all.

I think there are plenty of Hawkeye fans who are glad, though.

_Lisa_ 03-22-2007 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AOIIalum (Post 1417363)
Smith is a class act, he just wasn't the right coach for Kentucky.


Agreed! I'm excited to see what new coach will come along.

valkyrie 03-22-2007 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeltrap (Post 1417365)
I am baffled that Alford (who probably is not Bobby Knight Jr. after all) is leaving a major conference to go to New Mexico. That's all.

If I sucked at life, I'd leave Iowa to go to New Mexico, too.

(Hi, I'm a disgruntled Hawkeyes fan.)

shinerbock 03-22-2007 10:29 PM

Who do yall think UK will get? It'll be interested to see if they go for Donovan and if he's willing to make the jump. After him I'd go for Mark Few, Billy G or Jamie Dixon.

TSteven 03-24-2007 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1417439)
Who do yall think UK will get? It'll be interested to see if they go for Donovan and if he's willing to make the jump. After him I'd go for Mark Few, Billy G or Jamie Dixon.

I'm sure they are all on the short list. And my guess is that we won't know anything - other than the usual speculation - until after the tournament. Frankly, any one who may "still be in play" - as it were - isn't going to be discussing the UK job at this time.

For what it is worth, money won't be an issue at all. The issue will be the following. Of those who want the UK job, who is the best fit for the program.

shinerbock 03-24-2007 03:42 PM

It'll be interesting to see how money plays out if UK wants Billy G. UK is obviously the more prestigious job, but A&M is tough to beat on the money front.

KSigkid 03-24-2007 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1418050)
It'll be interesting to see how money plays out if UK wants Billy G. UK is obviously the more prestigious job, but A&M is tough to beat on the money front.

I'm wondering if Calipari wouldn't want the job; Memphis is ok, but UK would be a big step up, and he's the type that could handle the pressure.

Donovan and Dixon are excellent coaches as well, although I'm not sure they'd be as willing to leave their current places as Calipari.

TSteven 03-24-2007 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1418050)
It'll be interesting to see how money plays out if UK wants Billy G. UK is obviously the more prestigious job, but A&M is tough to beat on the money front.

I agree that many schools have just as deep as - or even deeper pockets than - Kentucky.

However, the difference between Kentucky and those that might - Texas A&M, Florida, Texas, and say Ohio State (just picking some schools whose coaches have been named and could afford to keep up with UK) - is that these schools consider themselves to be football schools. And as such, they pay their football coaches more than their basketball coaches.

At UK, on the other hand, we consider ourselves a basketball school (that loves football) and already pays our basketball coach more than our football coach. We - UK - don't have to worry about upping the coach's salary since it is already one of the highest (first or second) in the nation. Actually, we could most likely get some coach that most schools dream of getting for much less than we paid Mr. Smith when he was at UK.

Frankly, football schools are unlikely to pay a higher salary for their basketball coach than their football coach. But lets say they do. Or that they are willing to do so *now* to keep their current coach. Then I would bet dollars to donuts these schools will have to "adjust" the salary of their football coaches as well.

Thus, any football school willing to compete with UK "salary wise" may not only have to match or beat Kentucky's offer, but also budget money for their football coaches' salary as well. Otherwise they may risk loosing their football coach.

And that - not having to factor in other salaries to the athletic budget - is where UK has an edge in the bidding war. And why I don't feel money will be an issue for UK.

TSteven 03-24-2007 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1418100)
I'm wondering if Calipari wouldn't want the job; Memphis is ok, but UK would be a big step up, and he's the type that could handle the pressure.

I don't doubt that Mr. Calipari would crawl over broken glass to get to Lexington. And that he could handle the pressure. But is he on the short list? At this time, I don't have a guess one way or the other.

Quote:

Donovan and Dixon are excellent coaches as well, although I'm not sure they'd be as willing to leave their current places as Calipari.
I agree for the most part.

Still... Florida's and Pitt's programs are not Kentucky's. Nor is either school viewed as a basketball school. Thus the allure of coaching at The University of Kentucky, and a coaches' ego, might be enough for them to seriously consider coaching at what most would consider a "better" program then where they are currently coaching.

Perhaps one of the questions to be considered is how much "love" (loyalty) do they - or any of the other coaches being considered - have for their current school?

They had it before you, they had it during you, they'll have it when you're gone...." - Al McGuire on Kentucky Basketball Tradition


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