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BlueEyedButrfly 01-30-2007 01:36 PM

Frat brothers get prison for paddling pledge
 
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (Jan. 30) - Two fraternity brothers who paddled a pledge with wooden canes received a two-year prison term each Monday from a judge who said she wanted to send a message with the state's first prosecution under a felony hazing law.

Florida A&M University students Michael Morton, 23, of Fort Lauderdale, and Jason Harris, 25, of Jacksonville, were led from the courtroom in handcuffs, as was Harris' lawyer, Richard Keith Alan II, who was charged with indirect criminal contempt.

The students were charged with hazing Marcus Jones, 20, of Decatur, Ga., who suffered a broken ear drum and severe bruising to his buttocks after he was punched and struck with wooden canes.

Circuit Judge Kathleen Dekker said that one year might have been sufficient to punish Morton and Harris but that she added a second year to make sure that their sentences serve as a deterrent.

A jury in December convicted both under the new law, which makes it a felony to participate in hazing that results in serious bodily injury.

They could have from 12 months to five years under sentencing guidelines.

It was the second trial for Morton, Harris and three other Kappa Alpha Psi members. The first jury was unable to reach a verdict for any of the five defendants after raising questions about serious bodily injury, which is not defined in the law. The second jury also was unable to reach a verdict for the other three defendants, and they are to be tried a third time in March.


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Tom Earp 01-30-2007 06:07 PM

So, do not do it!

Guess it goes to show that so you so the crime then you do the time!

JonInKC 01-30-2007 06:48 PM

They're about to experience hazing taken to a whole new level.

Unregistered- 01-30-2007 07:05 PM

From the CNN article:

Quote:

Pregnant fiancee pleads for Morton's release

Morton told the judge that he grew up without a father in his home and asked to be released so he could be a father to his unborn child.


His fiancee, Lena Gallego, tearfully told the judge that she was more than four months pregnant and that Morton would never again appear in court unless it was to marry her.
Don't send her baby daddy to jail! :rolleyes:

Drolefille 01-30-2007 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1391708)
From the CNN article:



Don't send her baby daddy to jail! :rolleyes:

Saw that. I feel bad for the kid, but if he's supposed to be mature enough to raise a child, he shouldn't be beating people.

valkyrie 01-30-2007 07:10 PM

Two years seems excessive to me.

Unregistered- 01-30-2007 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueEyedButrfly (Post 1391487)
Circuit Judge Kathleen Dekker said that one year might have been sufficient to punish Morton and Harris but that she added a second year to make sure that their sentences serve as a deterrent.

They could have from 12 months to five years under sentencing guidelines.

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Originally Posted by valkyrie (Post 1391711)
Two years seems excessive to me.

True, but that extra year was thrown in there because the judge doesn't want others to do the same thing.

Sadly, I doubt that this case will stop hazing altogether. Chapters will continue this bullshit.

But as JoninKC said -- they're about to receive a new kind of hazing in prison.

AlphaFrog 01-31-2007 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1391708)
From the CNN article:



Don't send her baby daddy to jail! :rolleyes:

Here's the thing:
She's 4 months pregnant, so his sentance will be about 1/4 over by the time she gives birth. Then the kid will be without a father for a year and a half. Boohoo. That kid will not remember if it had a father for at least the first 3-4 years of it's life. Can you remember anything that happened to you before preschool & kindergarten? It's not that serious if he really wants to be a father.

DSTRen13 01-31-2007 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1391949)
Here's the thing:
She's 4 months pregnant, so his sentance will be about 1/4 over by the time she gives birth. Then the kid will be without a father for a year and a half. Boohoo. That kid will not remember if it had a father for at least the first 3-4 years of it's life. Can you remember anything that happened to you before preschool & kindergarten? It's not that serious if he really wants to be a father.

I don't think it's unreasonable for a mother to want the father of her child to be with her during the pregnancy, birth, and first years of the child's life. I guess it's a matter of opinion, but to me, that is definitely that serious.

(Maybe someone can explain this to me - the "victims" in these hazing cases all are willing participants, correct? So how is this something that anyone can be legally punished for? I'm sure that there is an explanation, but I've never really heard it, and I was just wondering about that.)

AKA2D '91 01-31-2007 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1391715)
But as JoninKC said -- they're about to receive a new kind of hazing in prison.

My chapter soror made a similar joke about that. Although, the situation is not funny, I did chuckle. :o

Drolefille 01-31-2007 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTRen13 (Post 1392034)
I don't think it's unreasonable for a mother to want the father of her child to be with her during the pregnancy, birth, and first years of the child's life. I guess it's a matter of opinion, but to me, that is definitely that serious.

(Maybe someone can explain this to me - the "victims" in these hazing cases all are willing participants, correct? So how is this something that anyone can be legally punished for? I'm sure that there is an explanation, but I've never really heard it, and I was just wondering about that.)

I think it was mentioned in the article that the law just recently passed bans the use of "willing participant" as an excuse. The idea being that you are peer pressured into it, and when it comes down to it, it's not ok to assault someone no matter what.

If someone dies after participating in activity that they were a willing particpant in (but they didn't expect to die) is there no fault? Or should someone be responsible.

AlphaFrog 01-31-2007 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTRen13 (Post 1392034)
I don't think it's unreasonable for a mother to want the father of her child to be with her during the pregnancy, birth, and first years of the child's life. I guess it's a matter of opinion, but to me, that is definitely that serious.

People in hell want icewater. So?

This woman's baby-daddy is a convicted felon. Should all felons get off their sentence so they can be baby-daddies?? Regardless of your opinion of hazing being a felony, it is, and he got caught, so he has to pay the price.

squirrely girl 01-31-2007 01:24 PM

i think a busted ear drum qualifies as serious bodily harm. not cool.

Drolefille 01-31-2007 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by squirrely girl (Post 1392056)
i think a busted ear drum qualifies as serious bodily harm. not cool.

It's never happened to me but I've had earaches before and all I can think of is DAMN that would hurt like hell. Worse than bruises for me.

ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl 01-31-2007 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTRen13 (Post 1392034)
I don't think it's unreasonable for a mother to want the father of her child to be with her during the pregnancy, birth, and first years of the child's life. I guess it's a matter of opinion, but to me, that is definitely that serious.

(Maybe someone can explain this to me - the "victims" in these hazing cases all are willing participants, correct? So how is this something that anyone can be legally punished for? I'm sure that there is an explanation, but I've never really heard it, and I was just wondering about that.)

It's not unreasonable, but we all know that's not the way it works. I just hope she has a good support system through her family and friends, because raising a child alone is hard. Heck, raising a child with dad at home is hard work. I don't blame her for trying, even though she has to know it's a lost cause. But who she should be upset with, really, is her fiancee.

I've read a million policies on hazing from the school, glos, etc. It seems like the "hazee" is also held responsible if they allow the event to occur, but to a lesser extent. I think that's fair. (I also think "hazing" encompasses things that should not be considered hazing, but bodily harm most certainly should.) I love my sisters, but you better believe during my term as a new member if I had been physically hurt, been forced to do things that affected my school work, been forced to publically humiliate myself, they wouldn't have been able to get my to participate. I'd be out of there in a heart beat.


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