Clinton to Enter Presidential Race:
 

NEW YORK (Jan. 20) - Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton embarked on a widely anticipated campaign for the White House on Saturday, a former first lady intent on becoming the first female president. "I'm in and I'm in to win," she said on her Web site.
http://news.aol.com/elections/presid...00010000000001

I'm in. And I'm in to win.
Today I am announcing that I will form an exploratory committee to run for president.
And I want you to join me not just for the campaign but for a conversation about the future of our country -- about the bold but practical changes we need to overcome six years of Bush administration failures.
I am going to take this conversation directly to the people of America, and I'm starting by inviting all of you to join me in a series of web chats over the next few days.
The stakes will be high when America chooses a new president in 2008.
As a senator, I will spend two years doing everything in my power to limit the damage George W. Bush can do. But only a new president will be able to undo Bush's mistakes and restore our hope and optimism.
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/in/

I'm glad Hillary's running. She certainly is knowledgeable about what she would need to do. I would really like to see a woman in the Oval office in my lifetime, but I won't vote for her just because she's a woman. I'll decide that further down the line.

Hillary tends to bring out love-hate feelings from most people. With such polarized feelings from voters I wonder how she will do. Personally, I like her, and I hope she does well.

My, my, my Hillary the "hellraiser" in law school.....has developed such a clever name for her funding people....

"HILLRAISERS".....just a note of humor in the beginning of a very interesting political race...oh, and one that for the first time in 70 years in our country...is without either a presidential or vice presidential incumbent!!! "And they are off and running........."

Certainly makes things interesting!
 

Hill is super polarizing. Love or hate is exactly right. I personally think she is far to divisive to win in the general election. She's just so cold and calculating and people know it. Obama has a much better chance of winning red states...all Hill will do is pull the democratic primary to the left I think...

She is not on my priority list to vote for!

Hell, she moved to N Y as a reverse carpetbagger from Ak. and gets elected in N Y!

Amazing how soon people forget the law suits and investigations from Arkansas when Bill was Gov. Before and after.

Tom; one would have to wonder what would have happened to Bush if he had not taken over all three branches of government? Heck, right before the past election, operatives were telling the right wing to go out and vote if they did not wish the next two years to be spent on investigations and law suits.

Seems as if some people think what is good for the goose is not good for the gander:) ;)

Just where is Mr. Star?

And now back the the thread.

Out of the 24 some odd people who are running, just who is on your list?

A ticket of Clinton and Obama.

Are the Democrats that brave?

Could be an interesting year...

My thoughts exactly.

And people actually would tell me that she would never run this go around - riiiigggghhhhtttt... that's why she had already raised millions and millions of dollars for an (thus far) uncontested & incumbent senate seat race.

What I can't believe is that ann coulter2 hasn't visited this thread yet....

She probably has to be pretty zippy with her Zamboni during hockey season.

Tom, you're right about the Arky investigations. The drug running, Rose law firm, those kids getting killed...I don't know how dirty the Clinton's were in those things, but I think at the least they were guilty of being involved with some extremely seedy personalities.

what kids getting killed?

I suffer from Clinton Derangement Syndrome and am always pretty willing to believe the worst about them, but I didn't know what you were referring to here.

Its something about some boys who came across something in the drug running they shouldn't have and ended up dead. Somebody made a documentary on the whole thing that was pretty informative, i'll see if i can find it...

Edit: I found this link about the whole Mena thing. Its mostly wild conspiracy, but the basic connections are in it. I don't buy much about any CIA involvement and what not, but basically there were some connections among Clinton, people involved in the drug trade, the Rose firm, etc...The whole situation then was extremely shady, and while I certainly don't think Clinton was running drugs through the state and killing off teens, I think there's a strong chance he knew people who were, and didn't do much about it. We'll never know now, but if you come across some of the less-conspiracy theory type articles and interviews, its pretty interesting stuff. http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/13/Mena.htm

Just the hypocrisy was enough to drive me crazy: talking about equality and justice while personally profiting from shady business deals and hiding documents and testimony; talking a lot about feminism with being a womanizing bastard or staying with a womanizing bastard.

Just so no one gets the wrong idea: I'm not particularly a Bush fan, but for some reason Clinton just makes me crazy. For some people, the opposite is true.

I recognize my failure to be rational, and appeal to others to do the same.

I have a love/hate relationship with Hill. She's a waffler at best. At worst--I'm just not sure.