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Peaches-n-Cream 11-08-2006 01:58 PM

Rumsfeld steps down
 
According to AP

Republican officials said Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is stepping down. Word came a day after the Democratic gains in the election, in which Rumsfeld was a focus of much of the criticism of the Iraq war.

Earlier today, a spokesman for Rumsfeld said he'd given no indication that he would step down in the wake of Democratic election gains. The spokesman said Rumsfeld would work with Congress on Iraq but added that the focus on stabilizing the country will remain the same.

In the days leading up to the election, President Bush said he wanted Rumsfeld to stay on as defense chief until the end of Bush's second term.

exlurker 11-08-2006 02:06 PM

Hmm, I haven't read or heard any details yet, just bare bones:

http://www.dailyillini.com/media/sto...ailyillini.com

Does he want to spend more time with his family? Or has a previously unknown health problem cropped up?

blueangel 11-08-2006 02:10 PM

Bush is giving a news conference right now and has confirmed that Rumsfeld is stepping down as defense secretary. CIA Director Robert Gates will take over. Bush says he and Rumsfeld agreed "the timing is right for new leadership" at the Pentagon.

KSigkid 11-08-2006 02:16 PM

Wow - I mean, not a huge surprise, but the fact that it's actually happening...just wow.

kddani 11-08-2006 02:23 PM

I'm watching the press conference... is Bush drunk? Perhaps he hasn't sobered up after last night. I'm not even being smart here.

blueangel 11-08-2006 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kddani (Post 1353846)
I'm watching the press conference... is Bush drunk? Perhaps he hasn't sobered up after last night. I'm not even being smart here.

Punch-drunk, most likely. I'm really surprised he made this announcement today. Don't you think it would have been a better strategy for the Republicans to announce it BEFORE the elections?

AlexMack 11-08-2006 02:41 PM

I'd like to quote a song:

"Nah nah. Nah nah nah nah. Hey hey hey! Goodbye!"

macallan25 11-08-2006 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kddani (Post 1353846)
I'm watching the press conference... is Bush drunk? Perhaps he hasn't sobered up after last night. I'm not even being smart here.

Well, would you be in a good frame of mind knowing your cabinet is falling out from under you and you are losing the House and Senate to a bunch of liberal democrats?

Drolefille 11-08-2006 02:48 PM

Addressing the country while drunk though? Or being so emotionally distressed that you sound drunk? Inappropriate. Delay the speech if you can't handle it.

scbelle 11-08-2006 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by centaur532 (Post 1353863)
I'd like to quote a song:

"Nah nah. Nah nah nah nah. Hey hey hey! Goodbye!"

AMEN.
Quote:

Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1353867)
Well, would you be in a good frame of mind knowing your cabinet is falling out from under you and you are losing the House and Senate to a bunch of liberal democrats?

Maybe if he had been in a frame of mind, any frame of mind, from the get-go he wouldn't have to recognize these facts. But he couldn't seem to get down from his ivory tower, or out of Cheney and Rummy's ass long enough recognize that the overwhelming majority of Americans are dissatisfied with his leadership.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1353870)
Addressing the country while drunk though? Or being so emotionally distressed that you sound drunk? Inappropriate. Delay the speech if you can't handle it.

And AMEN.

Peaches-n-Cream 11-08-2006 03:11 PM

He didn't seem or sound drunk to me.

Unregistered- 11-08-2006 03:56 PM

If last night's election results are like eating a big ass bowl of ice cream... Rumsfeld resigning this morning is like getting to lick that ice cream off of a hawt nekkid guy!!

KSigkid 11-08-2006 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches-n-Cream (Post 1353885)
He didn't seem or sound drunk to me.

Me neither - and I don't think the appropriateness question even is remotely relevant (and I don't get what was inappropriate about it).

It would be more "inappropriate" to not address the country on the subject, in my opinion. Then, you'd get the "Where is Bush on this why isn't he speaking OMGWTF?!?!"

Drolefille 11-08-2006 04:07 PM

I'm totally going based on someone else's description. It's not a let down to the country if the President doesn't address them immediately. How many people actually watched anyway?

KSigkid 11-08-2006 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1353932)
I'm totally going based on someone else's description. It's not a let down to the country if the President doesn't address them immediately. How many people actually watched anyway?

I think if the Defense Secretary resigns, and you don't hear from the President right away, the public won't be very happy. That may just be my read on it though.


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