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Read the rules before posting!!! These rules apply to this thread, not the entire forum.

1. Your opinion should only pertain to women who, without prior ties to an NPC group, actively seek membership in that group via AI OR programs developed to actively seek AI members.
2. No rebuttals are allowed in this thread. You can say "I agree with what Suzie Sunshine posted", but you cannot argue with the original poster.
3. Opinions should be stated politely and succinctly. Namecalling, insults, references to past 'trainwrecks' will not be allowed and will be deleted immediately upon discovery.
4. Please note that there are TWO threads - one pro and one con.

GO!

It is my opinion that any woman who wishes to become a part of a sorority without prior ties should be allowed to seek membership. Note that I said "seek" and not necessarily "obtain" membership. As I will explain in a moment, I feel that AI should be reserved for very successful women who have something special to give to the sorority.

There are many reasons why excellent women did not or could not become a part of the Greek system in college. Among them: financial reasons, not having enough time to devote because of sports or school work, or no sororities at the college attended.

Having said that, I believe in mutual selection. It is up to the Alumnae Chapter and International Headquarters to determine if someone is right for their group. The selection process should be very.. well.. for lack of a better word, "selective." The PNAM should have an outstanding background and have demonstrated the willingness to contribute to the sorority.

I think this is a different situation than the one posed in the "against AI" thread. If XYZ is actively recruiting AI members, then I think anyone should be free to pursue that sorority for AI. I'm not saying I'm going to be the personal XYZ AI cheerleader for every random GC freakshow, but I will be far more supportive of a woman pursuing AI in a group like this than blindly emailing nationals about putting them in touch with virtual strangers from the local alum group.

do you feel I should add the option about 'programs to actively recruit" to the other thread or remove it from this one?

I personally don't have a preference. Since I posted my general anti-AI sentiment in the other thread, I wanted to be fair and add that I wouldn't automatically be against an AI attempt with groups that are actively recruiting women for potential AI.

ETA: actually maybe you should add that to the other thread, the hypothetical "AI recruitment" sorority is actually a qualifier that a lot of GCers might support.

I approve of Alumnae Initiation because for many reasons outside your control, it is not possible at times to join a sorority in college. Financial reasons, parents not approving (this is mainly relevant if you are living at home), classes or extracurriculars relevant to major requiring too much time and work (eg- you are pre-med or pre-vet and have to do a certain amount of volunteering in addition to 15 credits of tough classes per semester), or there simply not being any social GLOs at your institution. When you are an adult living on your own and having a full time job with a salary, you may be able to contribute more to an organization in ways that you would not have been able to do when you were an undergraduate of the average undergraduate age.

I am against these threads. I don't see the point and even with the rules, I have a feeling there will be problems.

I guess I just don't see what this will accomplish.

But, for those of you who do, have fun!

I am for AI if the sorority seeks out the PNAI under special circumstances because of her connection to the sorority through a family member, friend or colleague, or she is an outstanding member of the community whom the sorority would like to include, and not the other way around.

AI is not alumnae recruitment.

You are trying to join a sorority as an AI, obviously you would be for AI. I figured that was a given.

But people should realize that you can be in a sorority and be pre-med and pre-vet. I know girls from my chapter who were pre-med and pre-vet, and they have all gone on to be accepted to vet schools and medical schools.

As do I - and most of them are on full scholarships. :D

A collegiate chapter of a sorority and an alumnae association are two entirely different animals. Collegiate programming is the core of sorority life. Alumnae membership is for the warm fuzzies and to support collegiate programming. Please cease posting about your AI search if you truly want to be an AI. You're doing yourself more harm than good. This remark is not in violation of the TOS and is not intended as a personal attack. It's advice... a reason that used to draw people to the recruitment forum.

I hope you understand that many GC PNAMs do not at all fit into your hypothetical categories. It seems that many PNAMs who show up here and post their story have had unsuccessful college recruitments and their "dream" never died. When they post about how they want to get in contact with four different groups but they don't know a single soul in any of them, it raises huge red flags for many other GC posters.

It would be nice if most GC PNAMs were never able to join as an undergrad because of parental disapproval/money/no sororities on campus, but that is not what occurs on this forum. Women come on and say "I rushed three times as an undergraduate and always got dropped by philanthropy night but I always wanted to be Greek and omgz now I have another chance!!!" In your post, you failed to mention this incredibly common scenario...and that kind of situation is specifically what angers the anti-AI members.