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UNFSigmaChi 12-19-2000 01:05 AM

Anti-Greek Fanatics
 
Ok im at work today and i can wear what i want so im wearing letters. Well this dude comes in, looks me over and comes back and says hey why are you in a fraternity(in a condecending tone). So im like well contrary to popular belif, we do a lot of good for the school community and the community at large(in a smartass tone). So he's like well you guys are nothing but a cult who gang rape women and haze. Now after laughing for a sec im like ok let me guess...you've never been to college. He's like no but i see it on TV. So im like ok stop watching Animal House, PCU and tabloid Tv and go read the truth. Then he totally blew up on me saying that i think im better than he is blah blah blah. I was getting pretty pissed and im like look dude...sorry your too ignorant that you believe everything you see on TV or you think im better than you but get a life and find something more constructive with your time than to come up with ways why greeks should be outlawed. I almost said that he wouldn't have gotten a bid anyways cause he looked like he got beat with a bag full of pennies when he was a kid but i kept my cool. I usually just blow it off but for some reason i got sick of hearing about how bad we supposibly are. I just prove greeks aren't bad by my actions and my GDI friends see that and stick up for greeks when people talk bad about us which is cool, cause i think thats the only way to change people's minds...them to see your actions and not facts you throw at them. Oh and i was also like...hey i think there are more raping, hazing drunk non greeks than greeks so does that mean that YOU should be outlawed instead of us. He's like um um um shut the f@#* up. Then i laughed and was like ya ya get outta my store and go gripe elsewhere.
Sorry this was long but i had to get that off the chest. I just hate ignorant people.

Unregistered- 12-19-2000 01:44 AM

If his reasons for disliking the Greek system is based on watching Animal House and Revenge of the Nerds marathons, then reasoning with him is just a waste of time and breath because it's obvious that he's too pigheaded to realize that *most* Greeks aren't like that and that we do make positive impacts on the community!

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KatieQ 12-19-2000 01:54 AM

Ugh...I hate people who are like that. I wear my lavalier to work and people always question it. When I tell people that it represents my sorority, they get this horrified look in their eyes. It's too bad that people think that we're all date rapers or party animals just from movies.

kdgirlie 12-19-2000 03:31 AM

i can sympathize. my family always has this hug family reunion in Dec for Christmas. And while we were eating my cousin went off on a rif about sororities being all stuck up http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif Obvously my family does not pay attention

Asia2000 12-19-2000 10:21 AM

Jeez, this is exactly what I am NOT looking forward too once I finally earn my leters. I know I am going to be on campus with my new Greek family and I am going to get so much love and respect and support. I know it's going to be a big wake up call when I get into the world off campus and still want to represent the letters I worked so hard to establish. I know i'll be crushed the first time someone responds negatively to my letters-to-be, but I am a tough chick, I'm sure I'll get over it quickly and stay focused on representing in the professional world!

CutiePie2000 12-19-2000 11:22 AM

I agree with OohTeenyWahine, trying to reason with someone who is like this is probably a waste of time. Their mind is made up and will not be changed, no matter how many pro-Greek statistics you quote to them.
(such as charitable hours, donations made by GLO members, etc.)

However, I have to say, sometimes, I think Greeks need to give deep consideration what actions/images they demonstrate to non-Greeks. One of these things that comes to mind is some of the slogans which are on t-shirts....

I know that there are t-shirts out there that say stuff like:
"Proud to be a QQQ" (which I think is fine, it's not all that different than saying "Proud to be Irish", "Proud to be Italian", what have you. It is fine to be proud, without putting others down.)

However, I think t-shirts which display slogans that assume a "tone of supremacy" like "QQQ sorority/fraternity...only the best get chosen" or stuff like that, I can understand where non-Greek people are coming from when they think Greeks are "stuck up" or "snobby", because these slogans (in my opinion) are elitist and snobby.

What do you all think?

AXO Alum 12-19-2000 04:45 PM

Because I am an active alumna, I wear my insignia to work anytime the collegiate chapter is having a function that I am attending. I knew that I would get looks about it (especially since I'm the new girl) so I was pro-active. Both our collegiate and alum chapters support a local shelter for victims of domestic violence. We are always collecting toiletries and toys to send to the house for the ladies and children to use. So I sent an email to the entire company telling them about domestic violence - I gave facts and figures, emphasized the point that these toiletries would be the first possessions of these people in their "new" life, and asked for anyone who travels to collect the toiletries from their hotels and donate them. The response was overwhelming. Not only did I get toiletries, toys, and even cell phones for donations, but a co-worker came to me and revealed that she is a victim of domestic violence and that my email made her realize that she couldn't sit around and wait for him to finally kill her one day. I helped her get the necessary info and helped her get out in less than a week. It broke my heart that someone I see every day had such a horrible secret, but I am so happy that a little act on my part resulted in her being able to get out. I know there are people I work with that don't understand what being greek means, and that they probably couldn't give 2 cents that I am wearing my badge to work, but at least now they cannot say that we aren't doing something for the community.

There will always be idiots out there - that's evident from some of the people who post on here (and I don't just mean differing opinions :-)) it is our job to not tell them why they are wrong, but to show them through our deeds and our Bond to our organization.

ChiOKitty 12-19-2000 07:13 PM

I also cannot stand how some people act when they find out you are greek. It ranges from "Oh, you're a sorostitute..." to tons of other little rude comments and ideas that are totally off base. It honestly hurts my feelings because I know that the majority of the greek community is made up of upstanding, kind, and scholastic individuals. And it especially bothers me that people seem to think that sorority girls have no morals!

ztafairy 12-22-2000 09:30 AM

I was at work yesterday afternoon and one of the ladies I work with was looking over pictures that I had taken at our semi-formal. She asked why everyone was so dressed up and I told her that I'm in a sorority and we had semi-formal. She said, in a joking manner, "Oh, I can't talk to you now." But then she asked me what sorority I was in and I told her and she said oh, they're not so bad. What is that supposed to mean? I don't understand people's reasoning when they say that kind of stuff. I don't think people have all the facts on sororities and fraternities, like the guy who came up to you UNFSigmaChi. They are ignorant and they only go by what they see on 20/20 or Animal House or whatever. I don't understand people like that. But the world is full of ignorant people who we have to deal with on a daily basis. It's sad but true! I'm proud to be involved in the Greek system though and I always will be!

dzjusty 12-22-2000 12:24 PM

I know what you mean- whenever I tell people that I am Greek, I always get anything from wierd looks to questions like "why" in a rude tone.
This past quarter I was working at my on campus job and I was wearing my greek week t-shirt and a guess professor got confused and was like " Ancient greek or modern greek?" I am guessing he thought it was some kind of philosophy department thing or something= so I told him no, fraternity and sorority greek. He gave me a dirty look and in a condescending voice he said- Oh, so it has NOTHING to do with academics.
I just kind of looked at him dumbfounded and then mentioned to him that Greeks are high scholastic achievers and that we do a lot for the SCU environment-he just kinda looked at me and walked away.
Ugh, some people....
justy

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adpi pride 12-22-2000 05:59 PM

How about this for nasty anti-greeks? I still live in the dorms (I'm a freshman) and one of the guys on my floor started calling me a soWHORity girl and one night even threw me up against a wall (I told him that I was going to turn him in for harassing me iff he didn't quit calling me names).This all started because I accepted a bid from ADPi. After that, I DID turn him in to my RA. He got kick off the floor, is on probation for the next year, and will be kicked off campus if he comes in my building at all!

HeidiHo 12-22-2000 09:19 PM

The first time I saw one of my high school "friends" she said "So, you're in a so-whore-ity now?" & my other friends from HS are like "So do you go to a ton of parties? When can I go with you?" First you talk smack about greeks, then you want to go hang out with them. Puleeze.

Honeybee 12-22-2000 09:45 PM

This is one thing that makes me soooooo mad. I hate when people make judgments before they know what they are talking about. I hear a lot of rude comments about the Greek system at work since I have a job on campus. They mainly joke about it as a way to buy friends. And then I have people asking me why I can only date fraternity guys...and when I tell them that I will date whoever I want, they insist that it is not true. They even made a bet that I wouldn't talk to them anymore after I joined a sorority. Stuff like that totally makes me fume.

Kymberleigh 12-23-2000 11:49 AM

During my first Christmas home I was out at the mall shopping. I ran into some of the girls I went to HS with, I was by chance wearing letters, and they had the nerve to come up to me and tell me that they didn't like my house...etc.... They didn't even go to my school. Then they went on to say that they were surprised I sold out to a house like that. I wanted to know "like what".

As unpleasant as that was I think its worse when the people are people you go to school with. This past semester I was in a French Culture class with seven other people. Three of those seven were very anti-greek. So, we would get into arguements in French about sororities and fraternities. Those three girls made my semester hell. However God does work in mysterious ways, because two of them are going on a immersion trip to Paris over break...and out of the twenty three people going...fourteen are my sisters, and five are fraternity guys. Those girls won't know what to do with themselves.

Kymberleigh
Delta Epsilon
Delta Delta Delta


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