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AlphaFrog 05-03-2006 12:23 PM

The Official "Should the US Have an Official Language" Thread
 
I did a search and could not find this discussed, except as a side-bar to other debates.

So, should the US have (an) official Language(s)?

valkyrie 05-03-2006 12:25 PM

No.

PiKA2001 05-03-2006 12:31 PM

If I remember history correctly, didn't they try at one point to make german the offical language? Or was it French? French sounds more logical because of the land they had in America but I want to say that it was german.

Optimist Prime 05-03-2006 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by PiKA2001
If I remember history correctly, didn't they try at one point to make german the offical language? Or was it French? French sounds more logical because of the land they had in America but I want to say that it was german.
You're right! It was German, because of the immigrants. There were more German speakers than English speakers but the house (i think i'm getting this right, for once) decided that we should not have an offical language, as the ideals exspoused in our founding should reach beyond cultural and language divides.

In keeping with that, I'd be opposed to any offical language.

Optimist Prime 05-03-2006 12:35 PM

sadly some people think this is true:


SPeak ENglish or Die

NutBrnHair 05-03-2006 12:38 PM

I'm all for celebrating diverse cultures; however, I think the United States needs to be unified by the same language -- English.

PiKA2001 05-03-2006 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
No.

Why not? Look around, everything is in english. When Government holds session, it's in english. When you file your taxes, your forms come to you in english. When you open your mail, i'm going to guess it's all in english. When you go to the movies, it's english( unless your watching a foreign film). I guess it might be a little different if you live in FL. CA or TX, but you rarely come across any language other than english in my region of the country.

valkyrie 05-03-2006 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PiKA2001
Why not? Look around, everything is in english. When Government holds session, it's in english. When you file your taxes, your forms come to you in english. When you open your mail, i'm going to guess it's all in english. When you go to the movies, it's english( unless your watching a foreign film). I guess it might be a little different if you live in FL. CA or TX, but you rarely come across any language other than english in my region of the country.
Well, if English is the de facto official language of the U.S., which is what you're saying it is, what's the point of actually designating it as the official language? It's a waste of time and energy.

mulattogyrl 05-03-2006 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by NutBrnHair
I'm all for celebrating diverse cultures; however, I think the United States needs to be unified by the same language -- English.
I agree with you.

Rudey 05-03-2006 01:05 PM

27 states have English as their official language. That is already a majority.

History has made English into the de-facto official language. Simply passing the legislation would help to remove any confusion that illegal border-crossers and their supporters may have.

I'd rather not see a clash of civilizations much like Europe sees with their immigrants so the encouragement of English would help avoid that.

There are threads on this so I don't understand why someone had to go out and create another one. I speak to my cleaning lady in English. Every once in a while I'll throw in a word or two I picked up from Telemundo but it's nothing serious. I'm not planning on learning Spanish to communicate with her in the future.

-Rudey

bcdphie 05-03-2006 01:38 PM

Most days I am all for multi-culturalism. That is one of the things that makes living in Vancouver (and Canada) such a treat, but the official Canadian languages are English and French.

I have no problems with people keeping their culture, speaking their native tongue, but I wish the Canadian government would stress that fact that to live and work in Canada you should be able to converse reasonably well in English and/or French.

I have had days where I am out running errands and the person helping me can barely speak a word of English (and I know they can't speak any French). I just find that so frustrating. I feel like I'm the foreigner who can't speak their language, yet I'm the one born and raised in Canada.

I don't get it. If I moved to a country that does not speak my native tongue (in this case English) I would learn how to speak their language. I would definately show off my Canadian/British heritage, but at the same time immerse myself into my new culture as well.

Easier said than done. I guess.

33girl 05-03-2006 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
Well, if English is the de facto official language of the U.S., which is what you're saying it is, what's the point of actually designating it as the official language?
So none of the federal offices have to go to the expense of hanging notices in multiple languages or offering Spanish language on their phone lines. That's my main reason why I think we should do it.

The problem is though, even if it's "official" it still wouldn't change the fact that there are pockets of the US where any store you go into there won't be any English spoken. Those are private businesses and they can do whatever they want - if they want to speak in all sign language or in pig Latin they can.

KSigkid 05-03-2006 01:54 PM

Yes, for many of the reasons cited in this thread.

Drolefille 05-03-2006 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by Optimist Prime
You're right! It was German, because of the immigrants. There were more German speakers than English speakers but the house (i think i'm getting this right, for once) decided that we should not have an offical language, as the ideals exspoused in our founding should reach beyond cultural and language divides.

In keeping with that, I'd be opposed to any offical language.

This is actually an urban legend: http://www.snopes.com/language/apocryph/german.htm

In short, no such law was proposed, though they did suggest that they print federal laws in German as well as English, this was never even voted on. IT was decided to only print the laws in English.

Honeykiss1974 05-03-2006 02:11 PM

Yes, English should be the official language of the United States. Doesn't meant that you can't speak whatever else you choose, just that english is the official language of business (and education)...and of the united states.


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