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ilovemyglo 01-27-2006 04:39 PM

I can't condone what you are doing....
 
Okay,
So I have a friend that is sleeping with a guy from her work. He just HAPPENS to be married. Now she makes the typical comments "I got me some last night, blah blah blah" but honestly I want to smack her. HE IS MARRIED! She says he tells her how they are only together for the kids, they don't like each other and they haven't had sex in forever (even though they have three kids together). And apparently he's had tons of affairs before. THat doesn't make it okay, I am sorry. So in the end I don't know how to handle it because I want to tell her what a skanky bitch she is for doing this- she only knows HIS side- she has no clue what the truth is and let's face it he is going to tell her whatever to get sex from her.
How does one handle this situation?
Also, she always talks about sexy he is- uhm, no dear he is fugly.

Unregistered- 01-27-2006 04:45 PM

I honestly would keep your own personal opinions and values to yourself and keep it her problem. Don't make it yours too.

You can call her all the names in the book, but there's no point because there's no guarantee she'll start believing the same things you do. Leave her be, because calling her out on it won't make her remorseful.

I'd get worried if she somehow develops some sort of emotional attachment to him and starts thinking, "OMG I HOPE HE LEAVES HIS WIFE FOR ME!!!" But from what I've read so far he seems like he's just a piece of ass to her.

Let her get hers and hopefully a better looking, AVAILABLE man comes around eventually.

Just stay out of it.

Rudey 01-27-2006 04:51 PM

Re: I can't condone what you are doing....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ilovemyglo
Okay,
So I have a friend that is sleeping with a guy from her work. He just HAPPENS to be married. Now she makes the typical comments "I got me some last night, blah blah blah" but honestly I want to smack her. HE IS MARRIED! She says he tells her how they are only together for the kids, they don't like each other and they haven't had sex in forever (even though they have three kids together). And apparently he's had tons of affairs before. THat doesn't make it okay, I am sorry. So in the end I don't know how to handle it because I want to tell her what a skanky bitch she is for doing this- she only knows HIS side- she has no clue what the truth is and let's face it he is going to tell her whatever to get sex from her.
How does one handle this situation?
Also, she always talks about sexy he is- uhm, no dear he is fugly.

She already created a channel for communication with you.

If you were screwing up wouldn't you want someone to tell you?

So tell her but don't push it. Just tell her. If she doesn't listen tell her you don't want to hear it anymore.

We grow and become better through things like that. Otherwise without our friends and family offering help and advice, we might end up losers, alcoholics, and be on meds forever.

Good luck.

-Rudey

AchtungBaby80 01-27-2006 05:24 PM

If she asks for your advice on the situation, I think you should just tell her politely that you think she's making a mistake and that you cannot condone her decision to continue what she's doing. Otherwise, whenever she brings it up, I'd just say something like, "It makes me uncomfortable when you discuss your personal life at work. I'd appreciate it if we didn't talk about it." She'll get the message.

PiKA2001 01-28-2006 01:43 AM

Re: Re: I can't condone what you are doing....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Otherwise without our friends and family offering help and advice, we might end up losers, alcoholics, and be on meds forever.

-Rudey

So I guess it's cool to discriminate against those who are losers, alcoholics and on medication now, isn't it???

AKA_Monet 01-28-2006 09:11 PM

Re: Re: I can't condone what you are doing....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
She already created a channel for communication with you.

If you were screwing up wouldn't you want someone to tell you?

So tell her but don't push it. Just tell her. If she doesn't listen tell her you don't want to hear it anymore.

We grow and become better through things like that. Otherwise without our friends and family offering help and advice, we might end up losers, alcoholics, and be on meds forever.

Good luck.

-Rudey

Wow Rudey, I've never seen you so level headed with advice like this before. I'm impressed!!!


At any rate, ilovemyglo, why do you care if this friend of yours wants to get busy with a married man? It's her life... If you don't like hearing about the gorry [sp?] details about her sex life, then you need to tell her to stop telling you even though she may dislike you for some time and won't share much with you afterward.

Your the one who said she was the "skank" and you have made your judgement on the situation. Even if you are correct and what dude is doing is exactly true, you are not the one who is involved with that situation and why should you say anything about it to interfere with your friend's misconception of what she is calling her happiness, right now?

If you are worried about the mental health and safety of your friend, you also need to remember than you all are adults and this "child" has decided to enter a full on adult relationship. If she wants that responsibility, then hey, she needs to go for it and there is nothing you can do about it. Telling her won't make her stop.

But you can say that you do not like the whole concept and do not want to have any parts of it. However, once you put it out there, you are gonna have to take the brunt of anger... And if that's fine with you, then move on. Otherwise, let it go. You cannot live vicariously through a soap opera novella of others... Why? Life's too short...

alum 01-28-2006 09:25 PM

Yoo're right. Your friend is immoral and so is the guy. The ones who get hurt in this situation are the wife and kids.

You should distance yourself from this woman. If she does it once, she'll do it again as will the guy.

Munchkin03 01-29-2006 12:42 PM

I agree with Monet. Why do you feel the need to get all mired up in grown folks' business?

Calling her a skank is a little extreme and judgemental. Unless you're intending to save yourself until marriage, you're probably no better than she is.

AOII_LB93 01-29-2006 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Munchkin03
I agree with Monet. Why do you feel the need to get all mired up in grown folks' business?

Calling her a skank is a little extreme and judgemental. Unless you're intending to save yourself until marriage, you're probably no better than she is.

That's debatable. The OP never said anything about saving herself until marriage, just that she thought it was skanky to sleep with a married man. Most everyone knows that sleeping with married people is pretty darn morally reprehensible. (I said most because dealing with absolutes tends to lead to trouble.)

Maybe tell your "friend", because let's face it if she was sleeping with your bio/sorority sister's husband she'd stop being your friend, that you don't want to hear about her escapades with this new guy because you find what she is doing immoral. She's the one who blabbed to you about it anyhow.

And let's face reality people, there is really only one person most of us know of that wasn't judging people. Judging people for their actions happens every day in all walks of life. It's hard to take the moral high ground on someone when we've all been judgemental in one form or another. While it was said "Judge not lest ye be judged" how many actually follow this truthfully?

James 01-30-2006 05:00 AM

I don't find it immoral for the girl. Its immoral for the boy because he made a promise.

OR maybe unethical would be a better word.

Would anyone agree? Technically she isn't doing anything wrong really.

sugar and spice 01-30-2006 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
I don't find it immoral for the girl. Its immoral for the boy because he made a promise.

OR maybe unethical would be a better word.

Would anyone agree? Technically she isn't doing anything wrong really.

I think that it's unethical on both sides because I believe in treating someone how you'd like to be treated. I wouldn't want some other girl up in my husband's stuff so why would I do that to someone else?

That said, I think his behavior is far more unethical than hers.

But the ethics of this situation are obviously debatable, soo . . .



I wasn't going to get into this discussion earlier, but since I have, I might as well go all out.

"Skanky" is not synonymous with "morally reprehensible." One can be a dirty ho and still be a good person. Or you can be a virgin and still be, uhh, morally reprehensible. Whatever that's supposed to mean.

AOII_LB93 01-30-2006 09:59 AM

I didn't say that skanky was the same thing as morally reprehensible, but what OP's friend is doing is, but in the grand scheme of things sleeping with someone else's husband or wife is wrong.
Now as to who is more wrong in the situation, they can share the blame as far as I am concerned. She knew he was married and did it anyway. He made a promise to be faithful and broke it...according to what he says, many times. They are both skanky.

AznSAE 01-30-2006 11:58 AM

the guy is taken but still shakin.' not cool.

there was a girl on gc that slept with a married man. i forgot what her screen name was. but, she couldnt spell and also couldnt keep her story straight. it was pretty funny.

valkyrie 01-30-2006 02:28 PM

This thread makes me laugh but seriously, bottom line, you have to decide if you want to remain friends with this person or not. If what she's doing really bothers you, maybe it's time to end the friendship. If your desire to remain friends outweighs how bothered you are, it's best to put your judgments aside and be her friend as best you can.

As a side note, your friend is being played big time. Any guy who says he's only staying with his wife for whatever reason (the kids, money, whatever) is lying. If he wanted to leave his wife, he would, period. The fact is, he doesn't, and she's either stupid enough to fall for it or for whatever reason doesn't mind.

adpiucf 01-30-2006 02:40 PM

Stay out of it. It's none of your business what she does.

I went through something similiar with a friend of mine who dated her married w/children college professor. It bothered me a lot because of a family situation of my own when I was a kid. That didn't stop her from continuing to see him.

Bottom line: doesn't really matter what either of us think of our homewrecking friends.

It's suitable to tell her you disapprove and you don't want to hear about the lurid details of her love life. Then leave it alone. If she talks about the affair 24/7, I'd ease away for awhile until she comes to her senses or comes crawling to you with a broken heart. Let's face it, married boyfriend or not, no one needs to hear a friend gush endlessly about the hot and steamy love sessions she's having. That's just downright annoying.


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