Kansas State -Manhattan & Salina
 

Don't let K-State become a 200 member chapter behemoth like we
have in Dixie, we still talk to one another up here...
Virtually all the chapters in Manhattan are bulging at the seams; and there is a new campus, already GLO'ed, in Salina.
No excuse for some great greeks to stay away. Always someone
building a house so picking up goodie not too tough and it will be
a competetive one, too.
Many TOP chapters on this campus, highly supportive leaders and
a great tradition.
That's Kansas State...get busy! Welcome to the Sunflower State!

erik,unfortunately for npc sororities to establish new chapters at k-state, k-state panhellenic has to determine that the campus is ripe for expansion. and notify npc that they will be opening up the campus for "x" amount of colonies.

it does sounds like a prime candidate though.

pay no attention--K-State
 

BE AGGRESSIVE...If you wait for the roast duck to drop from the
sky...you will continue to have a dead chapter there. Zeta had a
good group of alums, now in their 80s, but when I was teaching
there, one of our alums was married to a key Zeta; she waited and waited, and five or six more came on....duh
Even if you must play their stupid games, at least ask, at least get
your name in...Zeta has good rep and chapters at Baker & Washburn, bombed out at KU 'cause of poor job...tough, but there
are a plenty of good women.
do it...KState is a top-flite greek school.
do not wait for the roast duck....you can win here, it is worth it!

good advice erik, which i will pass on the the powers that be. thanks for the encouragement.

In all honesty, an NPC can only be so aggressive without violating NPC extension agreements. We can’t just throw them out the window because it is what our organizations agreed upon. Also, just because you, the general you, may not see or hear anything regarding your organization’s extension efforts, doesn’t mean that nothing is being done. You might be surprised at how many PR packets are received each year.

point is well taken
 

yes, your reply is good advice. I often forget that extension is
quite different now than 40 years ago. I got 17 new ones in two
years but upon thinking, many of these are state U's today and
filled with layers upon layers of bureaucracy, most of which are totally unnecessary. A huge number of campi have glorified grunts who mean well but have no concept of what they were supposed to do. This may sound negative. It is.

How much power does the NPC have over a local panhellenic?

As an example, can the NPC - not the campus but the main conference - decide to come on a campus without an invite from the campus to do so? (i.e. open/add a new GLO) In other words, say K-State's (only used as an example here) panhellenic refuses to open up for expansion when clearly it would be in their best interest to do so. (And yes, I know this isn't a likely scenario, but for sake of discussion...) So would the "powers that be" be able to *tell* K-State's (again, only an example) panhellenic that they *have* to open to expansion? And be able to do so?

While I'd have to look through the NPC Manual of Information to be certain, I don't think NPC has the power to do that unless it's specifically written into the collegiate panhellenic's constitution (and I don't think it ever would be). I think it *has* to be a panhellenic vote by the chapters on campus.

In the same vein, can NPC say to a campus who has voted for expansion when they're really not ready that it's not in their best interests to do so? Not that NPC would prohibit an expansion necessarily, just maybe discourage it at that time?

Excellent question as well.

I come from an NIC (fraternity) perceptive where the NIC has said that the campus (administration and/or IFC) can not/should not keep any fraternity from colonizing on the campus if the GLO so choices to do so. Yet frankly, that isn't always the case. There are more than a few campuses where the fraternity is supposed to be invited to colonize. And if they aren't, then the fraternity does not get any campus recognition.

In any case, at this time, it seems that the campuses have the final say or upper hand with respect to selection. Be it NPC or NIC.

in limbo
 

Seems like this situtation varies from campus to campus. The NPC
might well stand out of this. If Zeta Omega has a group which has emerged and wants to go with them, can they petition the
local authorities for recognition? I know this does not happen much with sororities but we call 'em interest groups. At the College of Charleston, there was a group which formed and wanted to petition TKE. The school had a shit-fit, would not give
a letter of approval...perphaps they were right, but if you wait for
Gamma Upsilon, the weakest on campus, to get better, you may
wait forever and after GU folds another falls to the bottom...but if
you must get an okay all around...will this take forever? Perhaps
this is the best way provided it is amicable. TKE had a group at the U of TN, never been there before, had 50 guys or so, and were met with great hostility. They are still alive but personally I
think we oughta fold our tent as we do not want to "push" TKE
where not wanted. There are SEVERAL NIC fraternities who have
entered campuses without permission and Cal-Irvine is one, for
example, who has been bullied by NIC colonies. The system does
seem to thrive and the school apparently has made peace, TKE does have an approved colony there now...but we held off for a
good many years.
So, I have no answer as regards K-State and do not purport to speak for the sororities. It is simply that a large number of those who've colonized have thrived. Those who did not simply did a poor job. You MUST have presence=numbers or like Theta,
a list of 400 girls who WANTED to join...back c1962. Beta has a
list of over 300 who want to revive that chapter at OK State. The
Betas are returning, have big bucks and millions in the kitty for a
new house 'cross the street from the union.
I am only wanting to call attention to Kansas State University and
encouraging activity. Perhaps I am wrong.
And, there is the ever-present little college who has only a few chapters, dwindling each year, and who will not let others on 'til
the bad breath boys get stronger...which'll not happen.
Give it a shot if you will...it is a fun place and Greeks are great!