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preciousjeni 06-19-2005 10:07 PM

Virtual Cops Gettin' Capped
 
http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/...36425&SecID=33

A new, soon-to-be released video game is drawing fire from critics who believe it hits a new low.

The game is called "25 To Life." Players earn points by pretending to kill cops and use civilians as human shields. Players can also play the part of the police officers.

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What's your take on things like this?

DeltAlum 06-19-2005 10:33 PM

The critics are right. This is really wrong.

DeltaSigStan 06-19-2005 10:33 PM

Remember when that game was called Manhunt?

Remember how it was called Grand Theft Auto beforehand?

AlphaSigOU 06-20-2005 07:26 AM

You gotta be shitting me... Americans have always had a streak of rebelliousness and flouting of authority, but a game glorifying killing and maiming cops?

Rudey 06-20-2005 08:52 AM

Two words: Free speech.

-Rudey

KSig RC 06-20-2005 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Two words: Free speech.

-Rudey

For real - this is the most 'American' thing possible, and I can't see how people don't realize it.

Optimist Prime 06-20-2005 10:10 AM

yeah, if you don't like this game, you might as well join al-qaeda

DeltAlum 06-20-2005 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Two words: Free speech.
Even under the Constitution, Free Speech only goes so far. It is not an unlimited right. With it comes certain responsibilities.

The first time a real police officer is shot and someone uses being conditioned by the game, it will be interesting to see if the courts agree with the free speech theory.

Rudey 06-20-2005 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltAlum
Even under the Constitution, Free Speech only goes so far. It is not an unlimited right. With it comes certain responsibilities.

The first time a real police officer is shot and someone uses being conditioned by the game, it will be interesting to see if the courts agree with the free speech theory.

It's not a theory, it's an undeniable right.

-Rudey

KSig RC 06-20-2005 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltAlum
Even under the Constitution, Free Speech only goes so far. It is not an unlimited right. With it comes certain responsibilities.
You're chucking the topic here - you should run down the exact situations in which free speech is limited. Then you'll see how little that applies to this topic.

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltAlum
The first time a real police officer is shot and someone uses being conditioned by the game, it will be interesting to see if the courts agree with the free speech theory.
Well, since there's never been any conclusive proof to suggest that 'conditioning' via videogame, television, reading books, seeing network news, driving through a rough part of town, or listening to your grandfather spout quasi-racist innuendo or any similar stimulus leads to violent behavior or contributes to some sort of bizarre psychological 'activation' of violent outbursts, you'll be hard-pressed to win any sympathy from me here.

The courts will do what they've done so far with similarly uninformed attempts at defense: throw them out.

moe.ron 06-20-2005 01:46 PM

Anybody remember the big deal about Bodycount's song "Cop Killer"?

ETA: In high school, I had a t-shirt that said PBA: Police Brutality Association.

In the back: Support your local PBA, beat yourself up.

Rudey 06-20-2005 01:59 PM

Similar enough to The People vs. Larry Flint. Substitute porn for video games.

Hey here's a novel idea. How about more of an effort to prevent guns from ending in the wrong hands? How about more of an effort to teach kids morals instead of requiring it through a law?

-Rudey

PhiPsiRuss 06-20-2005 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Hey here's a novel idea. How about more of an effort to prevent guns from ending in the wrong hands? How about more of an effort to teach kids morals instead of requiring it through a law?
That takes real effort. Its easier to just pass a law and pretend that a problem has been dealt with.

Kevlar281 06-20-2005 02:52 PM

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/1999/19990414l.jpg

DeltaSigStan 06-20-2005 03:17 PM

Retired Marine Colonel Dave Grossman is an OUTSPOKEN critic of violent video games, and has been a leading voice at Congress Hearings and for various watchdog groups.

He alleges that as per military training, soldiers play Doom and other one person shooters to "condition" them for killing. He believes, in his self-named "Killology" that because the military uses these games to teach their personnel to kill, that the same effect of conditioning kids would happen too.

I think the guy's wrong because the number of players to crimes makes it ridiculous.... but I just wanted your feedback.

Google Searches:

http://www.killology.com/
http://www.tgorski.com/Violence/Davi...n_04-23-01.htm


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