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moe.ron 02-16-2005 03:35 AM

Security or Freedom
 
I've had an interesting argument about this. We were debating when it come to zero-sum game. Would you rather have security or freedom. Remember, it's a zero-sum game.

KillarneyRose 02-16-2005 08:04 AM

Definitely security.

The1calledTKE 02-16-2005 08:20 AM

Freedom

moe.ron 02-16-2005 08:39 AM

I forgot to add, why did you choose security or freedom?

KillarneyRose 02-16-2005 08:48 AM

I chose security because, although it would be very idealistic to (very loosely) quote Ben Franklin and opine that "Those who choose security over freedom deserve neither", I believe that the most important aspect of a sovereign nation is the ability to protect itself from its enemies. Once that is achieved, we can go from there.

This is a great thread, Arya! I'm looking forward to reading everyone else's opinions.

DeltAlum 02-16-2005 11:22 AM

Security. It may sound like double-speak, but I believe that freedom without security is impossible.

A lot of folks would also argue, and I'm not entirely one of them, that although we have much more freedom in the U.S. than most, there are still a lot of things from which we aren't really free.

PhiPsiRuss 02-16-2005 03:06 PM

Neither. I choose Liberty.

IowaStatePhiPsi 02-16-2005 03:08 PM

"all you need is love"

ztawinthropgirl 02-16-2005 11:22 PM

Freedom. Most definately freedom. Although, I have to agree with DeltAlum that you can't have freedom without security (i.e. our freedoms are kept secure by the Constitution). But, I don't agree with imposing on freedoms to insure security.

My reason: Read the book 1984 and that'll be my reason.

BTW, I heard a quote on Law and Order Criminal Intent:

"Yea, I read the Patriot Act in it's original form: 1984."

Coramoor 02-17-2005 02:00 AM

Freedom.

It really doesn't matter how 'secure' the gov't tries to make it, there will always be a way to attack us. All 'security' will serve in the end is basically imprisioning us in our own country (to the extent to truly keep us 'safe').

RUgreek 02-17-2005 02:16 AM

freedom.

Living your entire life in security would be prison, and that's not living at all. I want to die happy.


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