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The1calledTKE 01-23-2005 02:49 PM

California attorney fights for women's right to go topless
 
SACRAMENTO — As a Ventura County public defender, Liana Johnsson has handled many life-changing cases, but her biggest public crusade these days has been going topless.

For months, Johnsson has been fighting to allow topless women at California beaches and parks, and now the issue has made its way to the Capitol.

A group of lawyers, at Johnsson's request, has asked the Legislature to make topless sunbathing legal, saying the ban is the last criminal sanction that treats women differently than men.

The new movement has urgency: Because of a December court ruling, Johnsson and other attorneys contend, women convicted of indecent exposure could find themselves listed as sex offenders under Megan's Law, alongside rapists and child molesters.

"At some point, men's breasts became liberated and women's didn't," Johnsson said Friday. "This is the only thing left that men are legally allowed to do and, for women, they have to register as a sex offender. The real issue is there should be equal protection under the law."

for full article.....
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...=la-home-local

moe.ron 01-23-2005 02:51 PM

I fully support the bill. In fact, all freedom loving individuals in the world should fully back this bill. God Bless USA, God Bless California.

James 01-23-2005 03:02 PM

Its my understanding that the spirit of "Megan's Law" was to register sexual predators. People that were guilty of multiple abusing of pre-buscent children.

Prosecutors now abuse the law itself by including any type of offense with a sexual connotation.

We are an uptight society when it comes to sex.

Sunbathing . . . registered sex offender for life . . . please . . .They should shoot the prosecutor for being stupid.

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The issue goes beyond topless sunbathing. The conference lobbyist, Randy Perry with Aaron Read & Associates, questioned whether fraternity boys mooning out a car window or golfers caught urinating in the woods would also be required to register as sex offenders now, if convicted of indecent exposure.


RUgreek 01-23-2005 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by moe.ron
I fully support the bill. In fact, all freedom loving individuals in the world should fully back this bill. God Bless USA, God Bless California.
Ever seen ugly tits at a nude beach? Some men should cover up as well, but that's just my perverted sense of beauty.

Sunbathing should be equal to all sides, but where would this law stop? At a beach, walking around on the streets. I don't think California wants to open that jar or worms just yet, but keep me posted on this one...

Coramoor 01-23-2005 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
Its my understanding that the spirit of "Megan's Law" was to register sexual predators. People that were guilty of multiple abusing of pre-buscent children.

Prosecutors now abuse the law itself by including any type of offense with a sexual connotation.

We are an uptight society when it comes to sex.

Sunbathing . . . registered sex offender for life . . . please . . .They should shoot the prosecutor for being stupid.

That's the nature of law. Prosecutors and defense lawyers are always looking to distort the meaning of law to serve their ends. Nothing new here.

RUgreek 01-23-2005 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by Coramoor
That's the nature of law. Prosecutors and defense lawyers are always looking to distort the meaning of law to serve their ends. Nothing new here.

you say distort, i say interpret.

hottytoddy 01-23-2005 06:54 PM

I don't think that law means that men and women are treated differently. Women's breasts are much different then men's breasts (well for most men and women). The anatomy is different...so therefore the law is different. Women's breasts are viewed as sexual...to me, men's aren't. I mean it's not like men get breast implants to change the way people look at them sexually (I'm sure there are exceptions--transexuals, etc.).

I just know that if I were to take kids to the beach...I wouldn't want women to be exposing thier breasts.

I mean, I understand her arguement...but I still think it's absurd. Where is the line drawn?

Lady Pi Phi 01-23-2005 06:55 PM

The passed legislation like this in Ontario.

Women wanted the right to go topless anywhere men did...so that was more than the beaches. Th courts gave them that right but then the women who chose to go topless complained that men were shouting at them, whistling, calling names as they walked down the streets.

That legislation was repealed. Women are now only allowed to go topless on the beaches (at least I still think they are allowed).

This is going to blow up in her face...and she doesn't see it coming.

AOII_LB93 01-23-2005 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hottytoddy
I don't think that law means that men and women are treated differently. Women's breasts are much different then men's breasts (well for most men and women). The anatomy is different...so therefore the law is different. Women's breasts are viewed as sexual...to me, men's aren't. I mean it's not like men get breast implants to change the way people look at them sexually (I'm sure there are exceptions--transexuals, etc.).

I just know that if I were to take kids to the beach...I wouldn't want women to be exposing thier breasts.

I mean, I understand her arguement...but I still think it's absurd. Where is the line drawn?

I see where you are coming from, but to be honest, I did not see any boys (or men for that matter) oogling women when I was in Europe where there are plenty of topless beaches. The only people I saw making a big deal out of it were....Americans.

I don't see a problem with it quite honestly. There is a difference between being topless on a beach, and wandering the streets with the hoots out.

hottytoddy 01-23-2005 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by AOII_LB93
I see where you are coming from, but to be honest, I did not see any boys (or men for that matter) oogling women when I was in Europe where there are plenty of topless beaches. The only people I saw making a big deal out of it were....Americans.

I don't see a problem with it quite honestly. There is a difference between being topless on a beach, and wandering the streets with the hoots out.

True...there is a difference. I just think it's classless I guess.

DeltAlum 01-23-2005 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by moe.ron
I fully support the bill.
Is support part of the issue?

Never mind.

Rudey 01-23-2005 09:46 PM

The only place in the US I've ever seen hot topless girls on the beach was in South Beach. And they were definitely not American.

If you're hot, show it. If not, I'm gonna ask that you hide it. None of that pregnant mom booby stuff.

-Rudey

AGDee 01-23-2005 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
The passed legislation like this in Ontario.

Women wanted the right to go topless anywhere men did...so that was more than the beaches. Th courts gave them that right but then the women who chose to go topless complained that men were shouting at them, whistling, calling names as they walked down the streets.

That legislation was repealed. Women are now only allowed to go topless on the beaches (at least I still think they are allowed).

This is going to blow up in her face...and she doesn't see it coming.

If I recall, when that legislation passed originally, wasn't it women who were breast feeding who fought for it? Because they were being prosecuted for breast feeding in public? (I may be remembering it wrong, but I thought was what caused the problem in the first place)

I wouldn't have a problem with having topless beaches, but, I think there should be family beaches where that isn't allowed too. That way, parents would have a place where they could take their kids if they didn't want them exposed to the topless beaches.

Dee

kddani 01-24-2005 12:03 AM

any woman with a chest of decent size shouldn't want to go around topless... bouncing = ouch. Bouncing also equals saggyness.

Unless you boys want to see all women with droopy ta-tas, you should think twice about your opinions on this ;)

RACooper 01-24-2005 01:42 AM

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Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
That legislation was repealed. Women are now only allowed to go topless on the beaches (at least I still think they are allowed).

This is going to blow up in her face...and she doesn't see it coming.

When did they repeal it? I guess I figured the topless girls interviewing people in front of the campus main library for the Naked News were "exploiting" the legislation... and that was last Sept - during Frosh Week


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