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Erik P Conard 01-10-2005 04:32 AM

them there grades
 
do outfits still require a certain grade achievement for the
initiation into the club these days? Wonder what they are?
Do special groups get special breaks on grades in order to
keep them in school? I do not understand and the press is
not clear on the matter. Things change, I realize, but can you
all clarify this without gettin' all bent out of shape?

moe.ron 01-10-2005 06:38 AM

Re: them there grades
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
do outfits still require a certain grade achievement for the
initiation into the club these days? Wonder what they are?
Do special groups get special breaks on grades in order to
keep them in school? I do not understand and the press is
not clear on the matter. Things change, I realize, but can you
all clarify this without gettin' all bent out of shape?

What club are you talking about?

Peaches-n-Cream 01-10-2005 12:13 PM

Each sorority and fraternity is different, but I think that they all have minimum GPA requirements that must be met in order to be initiated and to be an active member in good standing. Also individual campuses set academic standards also. You can look at each website to see these requirements.

For DPhiE from the website

"Academic Achievement
Each member must maintain a cumulative grade point average of 2.25 on a 4.0 grading scale, and/or maintain an average above the college or university's all-women's average, whichever is higher. Members must individually maintain a minimum cumulative 2.50 GPA on a 4.0 grading scale in order to be eligible to run for or hold a position on the Leadership Team."

Betarulz! 01-10-2005 12:22 PM

Uhh Yeah...

Nationwide for Beta, it is a 2.5 - Beta was the first to Nationally require a GPA higher than the host institution's for academic good standing...that was done in 1997 I believe.

For my chapter, we require a 2.6

adpiucf 01-10-2005 12:29 PM

Erik, have you ever tried your hand at writing in iambic pentameter?

Erik P Conard 01-10-2005 03:35 PM

thank you all
 
thank you all for satisfactorily answering my query regarding a
required g.p.a. I knew Beta had some higher standards, and I
am encouraged others have similar stances. To each his/her own, and may we Greeks continue to lead. It seems to be true
that FarmHouse fraternity, mostly on aggie campuses, has some
rather stringent scholarship expectations, too.

exlurker 01-10-2005 04:12 PM

The NIC, as part of its standards for NIC member organizations, will require the following by September 2005, according to the NIC web site:

"2. Member organization policies will include:

. . .
Each associate/pledge/new member has a minimum high school GPA of 2.3 for first semester freshman year and (whichever is appropriate per NIC member decision)

-minimum college GPA of 2.25 thereafter;

-or has a GPA at or above each campus all-men’s average
thereafter (implemented no later than September 1, 2005)


Annual cumulative GPA of (whichever is appropriate per NIC member decision)

-at least a 2.5 for each chapter

-or at or above each campus all-men’s average
(implemented no later than September 1, 2005)"

James 01-10-2005 04:33 PM

I'm glad we ditched the NIC. I am not sure what a trade organization is doing trying to mandate rules like that.

Rudey 01-10-2005 04:48 PM

People get 2.3 GPAs in high school and still make it into college? I suppose they are the ones who earn 2.25 GPAs in college.

While every Greek organization exists for whatever reason it decides and can decide grades don't matter, I find it a shame that any student receives that GPA and that a chapter would accept them without thought.

-Rudey

Quote:

Originally posted by exlurker
The NIC, as part of its standards for NIC member organizations, will require the following by September 2005, according to the NIC web site:

"2. Member organization policies will include:

. . .
Each associate/pledge/new member has a minimum high school GPA of 2.3 for first semester freshman year and (whichever is appropriate per NIC member decision)

-minimum college GPA of 2.25 thereafter;

-or has a GPA at or above each campus all-men’s average
thereafter (implemented no later than September 1, 2005)


Annual cumulative GPA of (whichever is appropriate per NIC member decision)

-at least a 2.5 for each chapter

-or at or above each campus all-men’s average
(implemented no later than September 1, 2005)"


Coramoor 01-10-2005 04:53 PM

Last year the average gpa for pledges on my campus was a 1.5 (on a 4.0 scale). Two fraternity's pledges had less than a 1.0 gpa average.

epsilon99 01-10-2005 06:33 PM

If your GLO's average GPA is good let the school know about it. Its great PR. We makes sure our Dean of Students knows about it as our school is always looking for ammo to make the frats look bad.

KSUViolet06 01-10-2005 06:35 PM

I believe Tri Sigma nationally requires a 2.5 to be bid. You also need 2.5 to be initiated.

ETA: The majority of the chapters on my campus have the same requirement with the exception of one which is a 2.75.

I don't think there's a such thing as "too high". I believe the University of TX Panhellenic groups have HS GPA requirements of 3.0 and higher, which I think is great.
:)

oncelurked 01-10-2005 07:16 PM

my dear, how high do you think a GPA has to be in order to be considered too high? Personally, I would love it if every collegiate had at least a 3.0 and so much the better if she/he has a higher GPA - all the way up to 4.0 on a 4.0 scale...and higher if it's a high school GPA, considering that at some schools AP classes are weighted as 5 points out of a possible 4 (thus making a B in an AP class equivalent to an A in a regular class).
Some of us don't have wonderful GPAs, but since college is about class and learning, many organizations have established minimums. Beyond that, many chapters have set standards above these national minimum GPAs.

IowaStatePhiPsi 01-12-2005 03:56 PM

Phi Kappa Psi at UT Austin requires a 3.2 for initiating. Their chapter GPA is 3.2

Our colony hasn't set anything yet- but we're most likely going to model any GPA requirements after our chapter at the University of Iowa. Phi Psi has a 6 week pledge program but they dont get initiated until grades come in, so would be nice to see how they modeled their program.

Erik P Conard 01-12-2005 04:05 PM

dumbing down
 
I find it nigh on impossible to believe any chapter anywhere does
require an over 3.0 (4.0=A) gpa for initiation
UNLESS
the old gentleman's C has become a B
Perhaps the gutless wonders and bleeding hearts have been so
intimidated that they no longer flunk anyone.
Yes, I flat-out find this unbelievable....
This is incredible! Would sure like to see corroboration on this!


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