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students denied voting access in Iowa

The Story County Auditor's Office illegally turned away around 100 students from a satelite voting location on the Iowa State campus...
I know what county auditor I am voting against now.

http://www.iowastatedaily.com/vnews/.../41788cc51e058

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Story County Assistant Auditor Lisa Markley said that the rules are different for satellite voting and the station officials had to close at 3 p.m. regardless of how many people were in line.
"It's illegal for us to open early or stay late," Markley said.
"The satellite hours are clearly posted. When the station is going to close, we announce it 15 minutes ahead of time, and we did that."

http://www.iowastatedaily.com/vnews/.../4179ac5be4015

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Secretary of State Chet Culver said in Ames on Friday that he was "extremely concerned" about election officials' actions that led to nearly 100 people being turned away from a satellite voting station Thursday at Parks Library -- in violation of Iowa law, he said.

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The Iowa Administrative Code, however, requires election officials at satellite absentee voting stations to close "after everyone has voted who arrived before the time established to close the station," a passage of the law Culver read aloud at a news conference outside the library Friday afternoon.
"It was clearly a violation of election law," Culver said.

I hope the voter reg. office shares their data with the tax commissioner, and the registered students start getting tax bills for their personal property and license tax bills for their cars. Maybe even state income tax if they are working and from out-of-state.

Sure, they can register and vote where they live, but they can't then deny residence at tax time.

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Originally posted by hoosier
I hope the voter reg. office shares their data with the tax commissioner, and the registered students start getting tax bills for their personal property and license tax bills for their cars. Maybe even state income tax if they are working and from out-of-state.

Sure, they can register and vote where they live, but they can't then deny residence at tax time.

As always this has nothing to do with the article.

You assume that none of the students don't already pay these things and I'm sure many of them do.

As always, yet another generalization.

If they are renting property, then their property taxes are built into their rent. If they are working there, then they automatically pay that state's income tax. The auto registration would depend on whose name the car was in. It would be licensed and insured by the parents if the title was the parents' name. Otherwise, they would have changed their driver's license address to register to vote in that area and therefore, would have had to change their car registration too. Although, aren't the majority of students at most colleges from the same state anyway? If so, most of those points would be moot.

I had roommates from Ohio and Pennsylvania who had to pay two state income taxes because they were working in Michigan and they voted by absentee ballot because they maintained residency in their home states.

I think you're nitpicking... these students have a right to vote.

Dee

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Originally posted by AGDee
Otherwise, they would have changed their driver's license address to register to vote in that area

That's not needed to vote.

Michigan law states that the same address must be used for voter registration and driver license purposes.

I guess I assumed all states would be similar. My bad!

Dee

I think Florida is the same way as Michigan, for what it's worth.

these students have a right to vote.

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Originally posted by AGDee

these students have a right to vote.

Dee

You're right - where they live and pay taxes.

Re: these students have a right to vote.

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Originally posted by hoosier
You're right - where they live and pay taxes.

they're currently living in Ames. And paying sales tax, income tax (if they work), if they live off campus property tax is built into rent, oncampus: no property tax- so they can vote in Ames even though they are not residents of Iowa (no residency requirement).

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Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
they're currently living in Ames. And paying sales tax, income tax (if they work), if they live off campus property tax is built into rent, oncampus: no property tax- so they can vote in Ames even though they are not residents of Iowa (no residency requirement).

Satellite voting also goes on 6 days a week, so they can show up again today and finish it off, and life is bueno again.

It sounds like a mistake to me, nothing that should result in blows about the head - honestly, ease up everyone, we still have a full week of this?

Shoot me in the face. Yeah, the guy f-ed up, and yeah it's his job, but it's not like he totally disenfranchised every ISU student (*insert "RC is a hawk fan" joke here*). It's recoverable.

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Originally posted by KSig RC
Shoot me in the face. Yeah, the guy f-ed up, and yeah it's his job, but it's not like he totally disenfranchised every ISU student (*insert "RC is a hawk fan" joke here*). It's recoverable.

She keeps shooting herself in the foot by saying she will
continue to disenfranchise voters and that students who vote are bringing disenfranchisement on themselves She just needs to be voted out by the pro-democracy citizens of Story County. Good thing my professor and tertiary advisor is running for the position.

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To quote The Des Moines Register, "The Iowa secretary of state's office said the law specifies that satellite polling stations may not close until all voters arriving before the time established to close have cast their ballots." Mary Mosiman, the current auditor, said that it was on her instruction that her staff acted counter to the Iowa secretary of state's policy.

She further went on to state that she does not intend to change her policy. I think the people of Story County would be well advised to change their auditor.

If this was the first time this disregard for the law occurred, it might be seen as a mistake. But this is not the first time and might lead some to believe that this is part of a concerted effort to decrease the student vote.

I learned long ago not to question the motives of others. While I'm certain Mosiman wants to do the best job she can, I question her ability and temperament to do the job that needs to be done.

For example, in response to a question regarding the long lines that existed prior to the scheduled closing time, Mosiman said, "In a way, [they] brought this on themselves; the activists had a goal of their own, and they were trying to draw people in up to the very last minute." With all due respect, Ms. Mosiman, these voters were in line before the closing time and should have been allowed to cast their ballot. Further, isn't encouraging people to vote a good thing?

Paxton Williams
Alumnus
http://www.iowastatedaily.com/vnews/.../417c6d175c3c0

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I am pretty sure this is Iowa and not Florida, but apparently, problems with voting in an election stretches much farther north this time.
Matthew Glider
Sophomore
Biology

http://www.iowastatedaily.com/vnews/.../417c6cc6aa751

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Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
She keeps shooting herself in the foot by saying she will
continue to disenfranchise voters and that students who vote are bringing disenfranchisement on themselves She just needs to be voted out by the pro-democracy citizens of Story County. Good thing my professor and tertiary advisor is running for the position.
Paxton Williams
Alumnus
http://www.iowastatedaily.com/vnews/.../417c6d175c3c0

http://www.iowastatedaily.com/vnews/.../417c6cc6aa751

Dude, you obviously didn't even read what I wrote - and never, ever quote a sophomore biology major to prove your point, how insipid.

Obviously this woman is in the wrong, obviously these kids can still show up and vote now, obviously this is nothing to get upset about past the "this woman is a retard" aspect. I don't buy the 'systemic disenfranchisement' argument - unless these kids are too lazy to come back and cast the ballots. Fight fire with fire - show up at noon today and cast your vote.

Take off the tinfoil hat and ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING TO COMBAT THE PROBLEM.

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Originally posted by KSig RC
Take off the tinfoil hat and ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING TO COMBAT THE PROBLEM.

I did- I donated some time to put up 300 "MARY MOSIMAN DOESNT WANT YOU TO VOTE- VOTE MARY OUT OF OFFICE" flyers around campus and around the city.