Behavior at parties, something new?
 

I went to my undergrad chapter's party last night. Even though I've been a Delta for almost 4 years, it seems that there are changes going on when I speak with undergrad members. A couple of things happened and I was wondering if anyone has experienced it.

#1) Some graduate members of a particular organization had came to the party and they started doing party struts familiar to them. Well, members of a visiting chapter began doing a strut of their own, so there are two XYZ strut lines. Some of the current members were upset and felt that the visiting chapter "disrespected" them in a way, by doing their own struts. What do you think?

#2) Some of the songs played contain explicit lyrics. The "oldheads" continued to strut as usual, but the younger members said they didn't want to because of the words. This wasn't an issue when I crossed in 1997, so I was wondering if is this something new?

Okay I'm gonna attempt to answer your questions.

1. All the greeks parties that I've been to, I've never seen this happen. Usually the greeks here stroll to the same song organization wise. The Delta's in my area stroll to "To Be Real" but the chapter at my particular school also strolls to their own chapter song. And they do that stroll majority of the time. So if the chapter at the other school where to come to their party, they wouldn't get offended if the dj played "To Be Real". They'd just join in. Once they were at a stepshow at the other chapter's school and the Delta's there were announcing their week, so they played "To Be Real". The Delta's from my school joined along. I've seen nothing but love from frats/sorors from different chapters here in my area. Boy, talk about bro/sis hood. That's new for me. I would have been speechless.

2. I haven't heard of any of the other greeks here worrying about the lyrics when doing party strolls. I can imagine that this is more of a sorority thing. But may I ask a question? What's the difference from "Jane Doe" and XYZ strolling to say "Me So Horny" than Jane Doe herself dancing with "Billy Bob" to "Me So Horny" at so and so's party. Around these parts, people are identified by their greek affiliation. So it's never Jane Doe the person, it's Jane Doe the Delta. So then there is no difference. You will always been seen as a Delta or whatever. And what if you are not doing a stroll but you're just dancing but you're in para? That's too complicated. I think that if one commits him/herself to not stroll to songs with explicit lyrics, they should dance to these sort of songs even alone wearing para. Personally I don't have a problem with it, but that's me. Like I said I think it'd be more of a sorority thing. I mean I don't know too many songs that pejorative toward men.

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KAPPA ALPHA PSI FRATERNITY, INC.
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I am familiar with the having two stroll lines going at one time being a no-no. In my experience, when sorors are strolling, we all try to learn the one they are doing or vice versa depending on who started strolling first. My Prophytes always told me that sorors are to NEVER have more than one stroll going at one time, whether its our own party where there are a whole lot of us there or not. It just isn't right or indicitive of unity (that is how I was taught, makes sense to me). I would not get angry with other sorors for starting another stroll, they may not have been taught the same thing I was, we would just stop our stroll and join theirs. Getting angry would also not be indicitive of togetherness.

As far as the overt lyrics, it has become common, at least for my chapter and I suppose this region to not stroll to songs that hurt your ears while listening. If sorors want to break off and just dance with their man or whomever, that is fine. I guess while strolling, since we are representing Delta, it kind of looks tasteless to jam and stroll while OO-OOping to a song that has overly-explicit or degrading lyrics. This is just the thinking here where I am.



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4/15/00

Ok, here is my take. I have been at parties where there have been several party strolls taking place. No one is offended and its not disrespectful. We also try to learn each others strolls. And i have been out since '95.
Are far as strolling to songs that have explict lyrics, I would say that is a NO NO! We must remember Protocol and how we appear wearing our letters.

Now thats my $19.13 worth.
Reds695

Allow me to say this on parties with degrading lyrics in the songs:

This issue can be easily remedied by BGLOs. If you are above dancing to songs with vulgar lyrics, great! Keep your stance on that aspect. However, take it a step further and (especially if your org is hosting the party) ask the DJ not to play ANY songs with lyrics you may feel are vulgar or degrading. Or hire one that plays only clean lyrics.

Taking it another step further, don't go to parties that play those lyrics. IMHO what's the difference b/t dancing to the song and strolling to it. It tells other orgs that your org does not condone such misogyny.

Now for those of you who may complain that your org may lose $ from fundraising b/c the DJ plays clean songs, ask yourself what is more important, your money or your integrity? Personally, my soul is not for sale.

As far as multiple stroll lines, yall are on your own for that one.

RM

I hear you on the Protocol. Believe me this isn't limited to just DST. But what about the ladies who dance with their boyfriend or whoever vulgarly, wearing letters or not and everyone knows you're XYZ? Is there a difference?

There was another thing that came up about this party that I meant to address earlier. There was this young lady who sometimes strutted with her greek organization and other times was strutting with a little sister organization. At my school, that is a no-no, but I guess it depends on how and where you were brought in.


[This message has been edited by c&c1913 (edited April 02, 2001).]

I cannot see strolling to songs with explicit lyrics; it is just disrespectful.

Being the old skool soror that I am http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif I would definitely say that a soror acting in ANY manner that is not representative of the sorority needs to be addressed in a sisterly way; especially while wearing letters.



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Mu Psi '86
BaltCo Alumnae

Dynamic...Salient...Temperate...Since 1913

I agree with you Soror. I think grinding on some guy while wearing letters is also a NO NO.
When I first went to college I became an Alpha Angel, but when I pledge Delta, I left the Alpha Angel thing behind me. I would never stroll with Alpha Angels. Big NO NO. But I have seen women in sorority's have a small place on their shirts with their sweet heart symbol on it. All I can say is H*LL NO!

[This message has been edited by Reds6 (edited April 03, 2001).]

at my old chapter it wasn't common to see a two lines stroll. and it was prefectly ok for a visiting chapter to come and stroll. the more the sorors are out...the merrier.

being a former sweetheart (Kappa)...as a Delta, i never strolled with the sweethearts...i still have a special place in my heart for them and will never forget those that encouraged me in my pursuit.

as far a degrading lyrics.....name one song that doesn't have degrading lyrics...at BCC there was one song that they played that did not have degrading lyrics and that was the band song, that everybody strolled off of.

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