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IowaStatePhiPsi 08-25-2004 07:40 AM

Russian airplanes hijacked & crashed?
 
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...nt_1880223.htm
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe...ash/index.html

no clue yet if it was a Chechen group or someone else.

Kevin 08-25-2004 10:16 AM

Very sad. It will be interesting to see who takes credit for this murder.

SSS1365 08-25-2004 02:57 PM

I read that they have ruled out terrorism and that it was an equipment malfunction. It's such a tragedy though :(

moe.ron 08-25-2004 03:11 PM

They found no evidence of terrorism

DeltAlum 08-25-2004 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by moe.ron
They found no evidence of terrorism
The story kind of sends mixed messages:

"Explosives specialists were still working at the scene and terrorism was still being considered a possible cause."

Rudey 08-25-2004 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltAlum
The story kind of sends mixed messages:

"Explosives specialists were still working at the scene and terrorism was still being considered a possible cause."

"Officials said one of the jets sent a distress signal that may have indicated a hijacking.

Russia's main intelligence agency, however, said it had found no evidence of terrorism in initial investigations at the crash sites.

The Federal Security Service, or FSB, said it was investigating other possibilities including technical failures, the use of poor quality fuel, breaches of fuelling regulations and also pilot error.

Spokesman Sergei Ignatchenko said that studies of the wreckage of the two planes indicated that terrorist act had been carried out."

Basically they don't know.

-Rudey

moe.ron 08-25-2004 03:22 PM

Quote:

Basically they don't know.

-Rudey
In a nutshell.

DeltAlum 08-25-2004 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Basically they don't know.
To coin a phrase.

SSS1365 08-27-2004 10:16 AM

It appears to be terrorism after all.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe...ash/index.html

IowaStatePhiPsi 08-27-2004 11:33 AM

I wonder if she used the saline-solution bottle bomb.

DeltAlum 08-27-2004 11:37 AM

Interesting as NPR pointed out this morning that the Russians didn't stop all air traffic as we did on 9/11.

AlphaSigOU 08-27-2004 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
Interesting as NPR pointed out this morning that the Russians didn't stop all air traffic as we did on 9/11.
For such a vast country, Russia doesn't have much of a commercial airline infrastructure as the United States. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the mega-monolithic airline Aeroflot was broken up into much smaller and independent carriers. Aeroflot today flies only international routes, largely with Western aircraft.

The independent airlines, saddled with grossly inefficient older Russian-built aircraft and cut-throat competition for the few viable air routes don't seem to last very long in business.

In case anyone's wondering, the international hijack distress transponder code is 7500 (for a radio failure it's 7600 and the general emergency distress signal is 7700). Pilots are drilled never to select these codes unless in an actual emergency.

There are other methods to identify your aircraft on the ground as hijacked; one being taxiing around the airport with full flaps down or landing lights full on. This why you see airplanes quickly pull up their flaps and turn off their landing lights as soon as they clear the runway. There is a duress code pilots use when communicating via radio as well (that's generally kept confidential).


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