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The1calledTKE 08-22-2004 11:43 AM

Iran hangs 16 yr old girl for having a “sharp tongue”
 
On Sunday, August 15, a 16-year-old girl in the town of Neka, northern Iran, was executed. Ateqeh Sahaleh was hanged in public on Simetry Street off Rah Ahan Street at the city center.

The sentence was issued by the head of Neka’s Justice Department and subsequently upheld by the mullahs’ Supreme Court and carried out with the approval of Judiciary Chief Mahmoud Shahroudi.

In her summary trial, the teenage victim did not have any lawyer and efforts by her family to recruit a lawyer was to no avail. Ateqeh personally defended herself. She told the religious judge, Haji Rezaii, that he should punish the main perpetrators of moral corruption not the victims.

The judge personally pursued Ateqeh’s death sentence, beyond all normal procedures and finally gained the approval of the Supreme Court. After her execution Rezai said her punishment was not execution but he had her executed for her “sharp tongue”.

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/new...php?storyid=80

Rudey 08-22-2004 02:33 PM

This is the government ushered in by France and supported by the filthy Europeans.

-Rudey

NickLc24 08-22-2004 03:43 PM

The number of cases similar to the above in that worldly region would surprise many.

IowaStatePhiPsi 08-22-2004 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by NickLc24
The number of cases similar to the above in that worldly region would surprise many.
Kind of like the history of Christianity?
Joan of Arc, Salem Mass, Spanish Inquisition, the list goes on.

(which again brings up my odd opinion: Abraham should have kept it in his pants. )

ETA: the US only sentences persons who were minors when they perpetrated their crime to execution, but doesnt execute minors, does this mean that Europe will focus more attention on Iran who does execute minors?

Rudey 08-22-2004 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
Kind of like the history of Christianity?
Joan of Arc, Salem Mass, Spanish Inquisition, the list goes on.

(which again brings up my odd opinion: Abraham should have kept it in his pants. )

ETA: the US only sentences persons who were minors when they perpetrated their crime to execution, but doesnt execute minors, does this mean that Europe will focus more attention on Iran who does execute minors?

How many years ago in the history of Christianity did that occur??

-Rudey

AnchorAlum 08-22-2004 08:20 PM

Joan of Arc, Salem, Spanish Inquisition...

Any events within one hundred years or so, other than the Holocaust or perhaps the genocide of the First Americans? Just hoping to keep things relative.

I'd like to think we don't hang young women, or take them to soccer stadiums and blow their heads off in front of men for sport, or force female circumcisions to take place, all for no other reason than the fact they were born without a male sex organ.

I mean, two of the three you mention involved only women losing their lives. The analogy might work for the sexism involved.

I wonder if 16 year old Iranian boys get hanged for "smart mouths".

PhiPsiRuss 08-22-2004 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by AnchorAlum
I mean, two of the three you mention involved only women losing their lives. The analogy might work for the sexism involved.
The way a nation treats its women is a good barometer for general oppression. Even focusing on non-violent things like literacy rates offers a loose, but real correlation to the type of violent punishment that this girl received. For example, in Iran, men have an 85.6% literacy rate, while women have a 73% literacy rate.
source: http://cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ir.html

AnchorAlum 08-22-2004 09:12 PM

Actually, that's high for a quasi-third world country.

You have a point. "Keep 'em all dumb and under your thumb" seems to be the order of the day in some parts of the world.

IowaStatePhiPsi 08-23-2004 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
How many years ago in the history of Christianity did that occur??

-Rudey

How many years younger is Islam?

KSig RC 08-23-2004 01:04 AM

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Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
How many years younger is Islam?

Dude . . . ugh, you're ridiculous



There is no temporal aspect to this, no relativistic temporal comparison that would infer that islam, being "younger", should allow basic human rights violations.

Of all your silly ass attempts to justify yourself, this one takes the cake. Brutal, honestly.

Rudey 08-23-2004 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
How many years younger is Islam?
Why don't you go to Iran and let them know you're gay and want to be just like them.

-Rudey
--See what they say.

James 08-23-2004 03:24 AM

Lets be careful about the sexual preference jokes guys.

moe.ron 08-23-2004 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NickLc24
The number of cases similar to the above in that worldly region would surprise many.
What is that supposed to mean? Please expand your hypothesis.

IowaStatePhiPsi 08-23-2004 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KSig RC
Dude . . . ugh, you're ridiculous



There is no temporal aspect to this, no relativistic temporal comparison that would infer that islam, being "younger", should allow basic human rights violations.

Of all your silly ass attempts to justify yourself, this one takes the cake. Brutal, honestly.

Did I say they should allow human rights violations? No.
Did I note that they are doing the same thing that Christians did at about the same time in their development? Yes.
If you look in Saudi Arabia, Europe and the US you can see the budding of a potential reform movement within the Islamic faith, in most cases almost as a response in anger of those who have taken the faith to fundamentalist extremes and warped it to promote violence in the name of Allah. Will it develop into an actual reform movement? I dont know, I dont pay enough attention- I have noticed Saudi Arabia having relaxed regulations allowing a greater freedom of speech which would work in favor of those wanting to fight against fundamentalists from within the Islamic faith. But currently it is still a battle of fundamentalists and religious conservatives vs. "western culture" instead of fundamentalists/hardliners/religious-conservatives vs. reformers.

Kevin 08-23-2004 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
Kind of like the history of Christianity?
Joan of Arc, Salem Mass, Spanish Inquisition, the list goes on.

(which again brings up my odd opinion: Abraham should have kept it in his pants. )

ETA: the US only sentences persons who were minors when they perpetrated their crime to execution, but doesnt execute minors, does this mean that Europe will focus more attention on Iran who does execute minors?

John Calvin had a 16 year old executed for the same reason.

But that was 400 years ago, so I don't see how it has any bearing on today's society.


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