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Wine&SilverBlue 07-28-2004 04:29 PM

Anyone have Crohn's Disease?
 
My little sister was just diagnosed..

PlymouthDZ 07-28-2004 04:53 PM

I don't, but my best friend/roomate does. If I remeber correctly, one or two of my chapter sisters has it also.

She can't eat anything greasy, red meat and a BUNCH of other things. She takes meds every day. Its really no fun when she does eat something that bothers her, or if she forgets her meds :(

sageofages 07-28-2004 04:58 PM

Re: Anyone have Crohn's Disease?
 
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Originally posted by Wine&SilverBlue
I was just diagnosed with a pretty mild case of Crohn's disease last May after it caused my appendix to RUPTURE!!! :eek: the docs think it had been ruptured while i was still at school, but i didnt go to the ER until my first night home...

i've been finding out that this is much more common than i thought (crohns, not ruptured appendices) and it turned out that a girl in my pledge class also has Crohn's.

i was just wondering if anyone here also has it....


jen

My oldest daughter was diagnosised with Crohn's disease a couple months before her 18th birthday. She has a fairly moderate case. That was 8 years ago.

I strongly suggest contacting the Crohns and Colitis foundation for helpful information. http://www.ccfa.org/

She has flair ups..but an interesting thing we have found, is Crohns effects a LOT OF people. There is a lot of research...but like with any chronic disease/disorder, I think the sufferer's mental attitude has a lot to do with their overall health.

My daughter has used it as a crutch (unfortunately) whenever she doesn't want to do something (like get a job..but I digress). My husband's coworker has it pretty bad, and he always manages to get along.

Watch your diet, avoid alcohol and smoking, and certain medications (Ibuprofen) and remissions can be longlasting.

Good luck

IowaStatePhiPsi 07-28-2004 05:12 PM

supposedly if you ingest hog whipworm eggs they'll help keep Crohns in remission.
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994852

bruinaphi 07-28-2004 05:39 PM

My aunt has a severe case of Crohn's and has had most of her intestine removed. She highly recommends the book Breaking the Vicious Cycle by Elaine Gottschall. About two years ago they told her that she had precancerous cells on what was left of her intestine and that she was going to have to have surgery again. She started the diet and within 6 months those pre-cancerous cells were gone and she was able to go off most of her meds (which she'd been on for about 20 years).

I don't have Crohn's but I've read the book and follow a similar diet. I highly recommend checking it out if you have Crohn's, Celiac's, Autism, IBS or Colitis.

dzandiloo 07-28-2004 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by sageofages
and remissions can be longlasting.

Good luck

Welcome to the world of pre-existing-chronic conditions! No matter how good you feel, it will always hang over your head. I was diagnosed in 1992 - was treated w/steroids & sulfa drugs for about a year. I had never heard of it before--the doctors didn't know what was wrong w/me until my dad made an offhand remark about being glad it wasn't ileitis (the old name), and then they knew what to look for (grandad lost 7 feet of his intestine to Crohn's apparently). Now, I hear about people I know getting diagnosed all the time.

I lost alot of weight when I changed my diet according to what the doctor said (no high fiber stuff, no red meat, no spicey foods, no caffeine, no dairy). Took myself off the steroids b/c I didn't like the side effects & started a vitamin/herb regimen in 93, which was really helpful. Got pregnant in 1994, and have been in remission since then.

My advice - try to stay as de-stressed as possible & figure out what foods trigger flare-ups. Shrimp causes flare ups for me, so I just don't eat it (even though I miss it!). Other than that, I don't think about the disease anymore, except for routine physicals....

I'll have to check out that Gottschall book, though.

Shima-Mizu 07-28-2004 06:04 PM

My co-worker's husband has it... on the one hand it is a sad thing, but on the other hand he is relieved to finally know what has been causing him so much pain lately.

EDIT: Fixed typo.

swissmiss04 07-28-2004 06:23 PM

I have IBS, which is related, but (I think) not as painful as Chron's! Almost anything can trigger me. I had a teacher that had it and he was in the hospital for nearly 2 weeks once.

Can you tell me how Chron's and IBS/IBD differ?

PM_Mama00 07-28-2004 06:44 PM

My cousin has had it since she was 16. She's now 33. She was the head of a Crohn's support group before. She's been in and out of the hospital since she was younger, but now she's on a cholostomy (?) bag. I always wondered why she put Bino into everything she ate!

My lil sis's real little sister has it but not that bad. One of my chapter sisters has a bag too.

Dionysus 07-28-2004 11:54 PM

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Originally posted by swissmiss04
I have IBS, which is related, but (I think) not as painful as Chron's! Almost anything can trigger me. I had a teacher that had it and he was in the hospital for nearly 2 weeks once.

Can you tell me how Chron's and IBS/IBD differ?

Crohn's is a inflammatory bowel disease (an IBD, not to confuse with IBS). IBS is more of a spastic disease.

sageofages 07-29-2004 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by Dionysus
Crohn's is a inflammatory bowel disease (an IBD, not to confuse with IBS). IBS is more of a spasmatic disease.
Actually Crohn's is an autoimmune disorder that falls under the inflammatory bowel disease classification. There is a considerable body of research being published as of late that indicates Crohn's may actually be the result of a parasite microism, causing the autoimmune response.

Inflammatory Bowel syndrome ALSO falls under the IBD umbrella. Many times IBS is a precursor to colitis, which generally happens before Crohn's Disease.

The hospitalization that my daughter had when she was diagnosised lasted 3 weeks (she did get to leave on a 4 hour pass to go to her prom, complete with IV and mother escort). She had been having tremendous pain and started bleeding in her colon. With out being indelicate, but her bowel movement looked like someone had opened a vein in the toilet. Scared me to death.

She has bled internally a couple of times bad enough that she has come within a breath of being transfused. When she was expecting my grandson, she spent 16 of 39 weeks in the hospital for flair ups.

Dionysus 07-29-2004 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sageofages
Actually Crohn's is an autoimmune disorder that falls under the inflammatory bowel disease classification. There is a considerable body of research being published as of late that indicates Crohn's may actually be the result of a parasite microism, causing the autoimmune response.

Inflammatory Bowel syndrome ALSO falls under the IBD umbrella. Many times IBS is a precursor to colitis, which generally happens before Crohn's Disease.


I'm confused, if IBS falls under the IBD umbrella then what's the difference? :confused: I thought the absense of blood in the stool, weight loss, and fever is what separates IBS from IBD. And those symptoms are the result of inflammation and ulcers, right? So, I assume that the inflammation in IBS is not as severe as Crohn's?

swissmiss04 07-29-2004 12:32 AM

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Originally posted by Dionysus
Crohn's is a inflammatory bowel disease (an IBD, not to confuse with IBS). IBS is more of a spasmatic disease.
OK, so what you're saying is that Chron's is caused by some sort of autoimmune problem while IBS is more of a structural problem? The reason I ask is because I had some tests run last year that showed that I had some sort of (unspecified) autoimmune disease. I never went back for further testing-shame on me! I've tried tx for IBS but they don't seem to make much difference. Even doing things like cutting caffeine, greasy food and other traditional triggers, I still have problems. I'm wondering if I was misdiagnosed. Anyone have any stories to share??

Dionysus 07-29-2004 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by swissmiss04
OK, so what you're saying is that Chron's is caused by some sort of autoimmune problem while IBS is more of a structural problem? The reason I ask is because I had some tests run last year that showed that I had some sort of (unspecified) autoimmune disease. I never went back for further testing-shame on me! I've tried tx for IBS but they don't seem to make much difference. Even doing things like cutting caffeine, greasy food and other traditional triggers, I still have problems. I'm wondering if I was misdiagnosed. Anyone have any stories to share??
Yeah, IBS is NOT an autoimmune disease. I would definately look more into this. You can look up Crohn's in Yahoo health and WebMD to see if your symptoms match. Look up Ulcerative Colitis too, I don't know if it's an autoimmune disease, but it is related to Crohn's. Get a second opinion. Some doctors don't know jack.

sageofages 07-29-2004 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus
Yeah, IBS is NOT an autoimmune disease. I would definately look more into this. You can look up Crohn's in Yahoo health and WebMD to see if your symptoms match. Look up Ulcerative Colitis too, I don't know if it's an autoimmune disease, but it is related to Crohn's. Get a second opinion. Some doctors don't know jack.
from the Crohn's & Colitis Foundation of America

http://www.ccfa.org/research/info/aboutcd

Crohn's disease is a chronic (ongoing) disorder that causes inflammation of the digestive or gastrointestinal (GI) tract. Although it can involve any area of the GI tract from the mouth to the anus, it most commonly affects the small intestine and/or colon.

Crohn's and a related disease, ulcerative colitis, are the two main disease categories that belong to a larger group of illnesses called inflammatory bowel disease (IBD).

Because the symptoms of these two illnesses are so similar, it is sometimes difficult to establish the diagnosis definitively. In fact, approximately 10 percent of colitis cases are unable to be pinpointed as either ulcerative colitis or Crohn's disease and are called indeterminate colitis.

Both illnesses do have one strong feature in common. They are marked by an abnormal response by the body's immune system. The immune system is composed of various cells and proteins. Normally, these protect the body from infection. In people with Crohn's disease, however, the immune system reacts inappropriately. Mistaking food, bacteria, and other materials in the intestine for foreign or invading substances, it launches an attack. In the process, the body sends white blood cells into the lining of the intestines, where they produce chronic inflammation. These cells then generate harmful products that ultimately lead to ulcerations and bowel injury. When this happens, the patient experiences the symptoms of IBD.

http://www.ccfa.org/research/info/aboutuc

Neither ulcerative colitis nor Crohn's disease should be confused with irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), a disorder that affects the motility (muscle contractions) of the colon. Sometimes called "spastic colon,"+or "nervous colitis" IBS is not characterized by intestinal inflammation. It is, therefore, a much less serious disease than ulcerative colitis. IBS bears no direct relationship to either ulcerative colitis or Crohn's disease.


In addition to the IBD, there is always the secondary inflammation that almost always accompanies these conditions.

In my daughter's case, she has pretty severe arthritis in her back and legs, causing significant pain. In fact her structural pain from the arthritis made diagnosis virtually impossible until she had the bleeding episode. She was treated for almost 3 years for a "back injury" only for us to learn it was all Crohn's related.

http://www.ccfa.org/research/info/complications

The complications of Crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis (collectively known as inflammatory bowel disease, or IBD) are generally categorized as either local or systemic. The term "local" refers to a complication involving the intestinal tract itself. The term "systemic" (or extraintestinal) refers to complications involving other organs or complications that affect the patient as a whole -- rather than just the bowel.

Systemic complications -- which include fever, weakness, and loss of appetite -- are a reflection of the inflammation in the small intestine and/or colon. But there are also some people with IBD who suffer from certain types of arthritis, skin conditions, inflammation of the eye, liver and kidney disorders, and bone loss. Of all the extraintestinal complications, arthritis is the most common. Joint, eye, and skin complications often occur together. For unknown reasons, the extraintestinal or systemic manifestations may predominate in children and even overshadow the intestinal symptoms, which may make diagnosis even more difficult.


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