Reagan and LXA
 

It seems to me that either Mike or Ron...pledged Lambda Chi
Alpha at Arizona State....I am sure of the pledging, but not so
sure of the school or whether he was initiated.
TKE did not have a strong chapter then at ASU though we did
pioneer the school.
At any rate, Ronald Wilson Reagan was well-acquainted with
Lambda Chi Alpha, as they were TKE rivals at Eureka, and they
were friends, too.
I bring this up as a TKE and point out it is but one of a goodly
number of occasions where TKE and LXA are genial...
May it continue!

Point Well Placed
 

TKE Frater, thank you for posting this!

I am sure many do not know that LXA and TKE HDQ are next door to each other!:) There was also a time when LXA and TKE had discussions about a merger back when. Erik, I hope you can fill in the blank here.

For those that do not know Erik Conard, He is the one person instrumental for Me when I started B X as a Local to select or at least look at LXA!

It was a 14 hour meeting whether to Affiliate with LXA or TX. Thank God I won!

Erik and George S were Field Reps ( Traveling Secs), (ELCS Today) vieing against each other in the Olden Days. Way Back!

If You have a questions about Greeks, I am sure He can help fill in a lot of holes!

I have known this Gentleman since @ 1965 and still have the pleasure of being His Friend and Interfraternal Brother! :cool:

So basically, use him like a Junk Yard Dawg!:D

He is more than happy to help!:cool:

Erik,

I checked the 2003 LCA Directory, but there's no mention of a Reagan that could have been one of them - but then again, our directories are notoriously incomplete.

As I watch the funeral on TV, they said that Rev/Sen John Danforth is going to read the 23rd Psalm. I looked in Baird's Manual to see if he was a TKE. He's not. Interestingly, he is a Lambda Chi.

Jono

It's been a long week since President Reagan passed away. The events tonight were impressive and well choreographed. By the time it was over, my eyes were red and I wished that I had taped it. It was worthy of that.

Ron Reagan summed up his father the best when he called him, "plainly decent". I think that was pretty good. Unfortunately, not many Presidents can be characterized that way.

Jono

reagan/lxa
 

My authority on the Reagans passed away last year, but I think
Mike Reagan pledged Lambda Chi at Arizona State and did not
make his grades. This'd be about 1956-7 or so.
Tom, I do not know of a Lambda Chi-TKE negotiation...I do, of course know of Lambda Chi & Theta Kappa Nu. TKE had a talk
with Kappa Delta Rho circa 1940 or so about a merger and the
new name was to be Tau Kappa Delta. The voted failed on the
Teke side. KDR still is seldom west of the Mississippi.
My word...there are yet many campuses TKE and LXA do not meet.
What a helleva merger that'd be!
I think the Phi Sigma Kappa & Phi Sigma Epsilon merger was one
that strengthened each...
Interesting it will indeed be to see what Amherst does with those
old, once-beautiful, fraternity houses. They took many of 'em away and gave them to the ****** and ******. Within a year they were virtually uninhabitable. The only four letter word
not used on those walls was "soap."

Well, you guys have suffered enough...grow and prosper!

Re: reagan/lxa
 

I dont know what this is supposed to mean, so I'll give you a chance to explain yourself before I get more offended than what I already am. limpwrists and hoggers? I am hoping for the sake of your generation, organization and any respect I ever might have had for you or Tom Earps affilliation with you that its a joke I am just not getting. 'Cause hatespeech and insults dont belong in MY forum. Maybe its the norm in the TKE forum....

Way to represent TKE Erik. :rolleyes:


ETA: The TKE and LXA merger was in the process before we merged with TKN. it never progressed past the talks phase because it was decided by all that our values and goals were just too different.

two eras indeed
 

Lifesaver, we must indeed be of two different generations...I will
not apologize for the limpwrist or hogger remark. I resent deeply
the destruction caused on various campuses by the anti-greek factions, and the grief and heartbreak those phonies have caused
In business I will not hire a limper or a hogger. There must be some place for them.
However, if you meant a blanket castigation of homosexuals, lesbians and uglies, then you missed the whole point.

Re: Re: reagan/lxa
 

Hear Hear...

What pray tell is a "limpwrist" or a "hogger"?

I too would like a more detailed explaination of your remarks, because if they are even remotely close to what I think they are you have insulted my Brothers and that is the same as an insult to me.

Men, please keep your arguments to youselves even though all involved have valid points on the issue at hand. PM each other if you want to have a personal conversation, even though you want to take it out on someone on this thread.
Guys we are talking about a great man that just died, not any man but a former President of the United States and a man that lived an absolutely incredible life. We should not disrespect Presient Reagan by arguing on a thread about his family and ties to Lamdba Chi Alpha, it definitely will bring out emotions to others that are bystanders, like myself. Overall, that is an interesting fact his son might have been an associate with Lambda Chi Alpha but the fact is he did not and he has never been initiated,so it really does not matter, lets please end this discussion.

Edited Posts
 

I have edited some of the posts on this thread and may do more if neccesary.

Some of this should not be placed on a thread. Please refrain in using terms that may be offensive to our members.

Any back biting or offensive remarks from anyone will be deleted.

Thank you.

apology
 

I did not mean to offend any members of Lambda Chi Alpha in my
judged-insensitive remarks aimed at Amherst students, none of
who were members of Lambda Chi...I was perhaps over-emoting
as to the way those beautiful houses were treated, and I am sure
some of you would have been offended at the same thought; you
may not have used the same rustic language.
The LXA-TKE merger talks were never even at a serious stage in
the 1930s, and is not included in the TKE history. I was aware of
some discussions involving Harrold Pierce "Tex" Flint, Sec'y of TKE,
of Lawrence Wilbur Tuesburg and William Salter Wilson, all past
presidents of TKE and national organizers. TKE and LXA were both seeking potential mergers, and you were completely correct
in saying TKE and LXA had differing values at that time, in that era, and the White/Christian/Male membership requirements were
not within TKE. Not that TKE was so high fallutin' and you must know the college matriculate of the 30s was considerably different
than those of today....times indeed have changed. You brought
up the differing values in a rather negative frame, I did not...
TKE and LXA are closer today than any time in both histories. If
Duke or S George are still around they would corroborate what I
have said.
But, let us be friends...I will cease to dwell on the topic which I had initially intended to be friendly. I did not nor do not pretend to speak for TKE, by the way. Tom, you have known me for a long time and you know I had no rancor towards LXA. But we as
fraternities are still elite and not rehabilitation centers. The world
is large and there is plenty of room yet. Fraternally, Erik

Re: two eras indeed
 

Erik,

I guess were miscommunicating right past each othere here. As a proponent of greek life and an advocate for such for more than a dozen years now, I AGREE with you that what has happened to greek life by the anti-greek factions out there is disgusting. Since the anti-greek forces out there are numerous, diverse and have competing agendas I think its a fools errand to try and condense their motivating factors down to a few points dealing maily with physical characteristics.

If your point was not a blanket castigation of homosexuals, lesbians and uglies than for the sake of intellegent debate, please stay away from emotionally charged words like 'limpers' or 'hoggers'. Remember, perception=reality. People see terms used like those and arent going to assume you were using them with altruistic intentions.

I did not make any value statements (positive or negative) on the differeing values of either organization during merger talks. Since I wasnt around 70 years ago, what I know of the talks is what I have read in the LXA history book. I simply said BOTH organizations decided that our values and goals were too different for a merger to be viable at that time. I do think Tom Earp was around back then. We could ask him tho. Tom? lol.

I agree that we should move on. Apology accepted.

lifesaver

thanks, you're a LIFESAVER
 

You have made excellent points and expressed far better than I
could. We, indeed, agree.
My primitive central Kansas upbringing sometimes will induce me
to use once-colorful descriptions no longer understood or in vogue
For that I am sorry. I have eaten my bucket of worms...
Let us all be friends. We have enough critics on the outside.
Fraternally, Erik P Conard

re: Merger
 

I think LXA, TKE and another (Acacia?) discussed forming
a "confederation" instead of a union....exactly what that
meant, I can only guess this:

The main reason for merger was that national HQs were
running out of money to run their offices. A "confederation"
might have meant that the 2 (or 3) fraternities would
remain separate, even have chapters on the same campus,
but there would be one HQ, one staff, one executive
director, one set of chapter consultants, etc for both
(all 3).

Obviously, it never got beyond the casual discussion point.