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AlphaGamDiva 06-09-2004 12:16 PM

What don't you like about your party?
 
just curious?

first, i hate the stereotype that all Republicans have of being stingy wealthy haters.

second, i wish there was more of an appearance of acceptance for gays and lesbians.....i have my religious convictions on the matter, but as far as how i think we should treat other ppl and that rights for Americans should be equal......it's hard for me to 100% accept the way my party is going. i know what they're saying and how they feel.....but this is a blatant disregard of separation of church and state.....b/c i can't think of any other reason than blind bigotry to deny these ppl anything.

AlphaSigOU 06-09-2004 12:45 PM

As a moderate Republican, I don't particularly like the way the party has been hijacked by by the ultra-conservative right wing. (If I were a moderate Democrat, I'd be railing against the ultra-liberal left wing.)

Diva, I gotta agree with ya... I have my personal beliefs, but I'm not gonna dictate how people should live their lives in private. Like the old Bob Dylan song "... the times, they are a-changing", we need to adapt with the times. Unfortunately, for some, the 'good old days of yesteryear' are still clouding their minds.

33girl 06-09-2004 12:51 PM

their stupid ridiculous jackasinine support of school choice. :mad:

Kevin 06-09-2004 12:55 PM

I'm a registered Republican. I agree with AlphaSigOU except, I don't think it's the "ultra-right wing" people. I think it's the religious right that has hijacked the party (John Ashcroft, George Bush, et al). I'm fiscally extremely on the conservative side. I plan to make a lot of money when I finish my education and really will be pissed if we return to taxes in the 70% range like we had during the days of Jimmy Carter -- and like we see with our more socialist allies today. I also do not believe in big government as in most government programs. I don't think the government should be getting into businesses that compete with the private sector (see: US Postal Service).

I really REALLY don't like the way the Bush administration has essentially co-opted the democratic agenda so they can try and have it both ways.

I realize that running up deficits worked for Reagan. We were fighting the Soviets back then -- we forced their government to go broke during the arms race. But we're not fighting the Soviets anymore. This spending spree has got to slow down. If we have to cut welfare programs, wasteful educational programs, social programs, science programs, so be it!

I can't stand some of the grandstanding they've done on things like stem cell research, etc. in order to appeal to the religious right. I wish they'd figure it out. The religious right will NOT vote Democrat no matter what happens! So why do we keep doing whatever it is the religious right wants?

I don't really mind the "cowboy" image worldwide. I personally do not give a crap what anyone in Europe thinks about my President or government. We have a better life here, they know it, and they don't understand why that is.

I apologize in advance for my rant.

MTSUGURL 06-09-2004 01:11 PM

I don't like the support of big businesses rep, I don't like most of the education stuff, and I don't like the seeming lack of humanitarianism. I chose my issues I feel strongly about, and those are what make me a Republican; there are a lot of Democrat ideals that I like, but I don't agree with the way that "my" issues are dealt with by the Democratic party.

AlphaSigOU 06-09-2004 01:11 PM

Co-sign on that, K... my bad if I wasn't much clearer in my previous post. You're right the religious right has hijacked our party; to them anyone who doesn't precisely toe the line with their political view is quickly condemned as a heretic and the Antichrist.

Get ahold of this week's Business Week magazine (dated June 14, 2004)... very interesting story about how our vote increasingly counts for nothing.

Pike1483 06-09-2004 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by AlphaSigOU
Co-sign on that, K... my bad if I wasn't much clearer in my previous post. You're right the religious right has hijacked our party; to them anyone who doesn't precisely toe the line with their political view is quickly condemned as a heretic and the Antichrist.

Get ahold of this week's Business Week magazine (dated June 14, 2004)... very interesting story about how our vote increasingly counts for nothing.

Here's a question: Who would you consider to be the "Religious Right?"

Jill1228 06-09-2004 03:02 PM

I consider myself a middle of the road leaning toward Republican. (except there is no way in hell I will vote for Bush!)

My problem with the GOP are:
Their view on gay rights
A woman's right to choose

Like Alpha Sig-I hate the hijacking of the party by the Ultra Conservative Religious right. They make the rest of the GOP look bad

KTsnake said:
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I really REALLY don't like the way the Bush administration has essentially co-opted the democratic agenda so they can try and have it both ways.
Co-sign here! The main reason I won't vote for Bush. it is not that I am voting for Kerry, I will be voting AGAINST Bush

MTSU girl said:
Quote:

there are a lot of Democrat ideals that I like, but I don't agree with the way that "my" issues are dealt with by the Democratic party.
I so agree!

That is why I am middle of the road

AlphaSigOU 06-09-2004 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pike1483
Here's a question: Who would you consider to be the "Religious Right?"
The Christian Coalition, for one, Jerry Falwell and various and sundry self-righteous televangelists. While I laud the Christian Coalition's effort to preserve our values, I resent their intrusiveness in them telling me which person to vote for and what position to support. Let ME be the judge of that.

I voted for Bush in 2000, the way CinC-Shrub is handling things he'd better get his sh*t straight before I 'throw away' my vote. And that doesn't mean voting for Kerry, either. Too bad 'none of the above' is a viable political candidate in Texas.

Kevin 06-09-2004 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pike1483
Here's a question: Who would you consider to be the "Religious Right?"
The folks that are legislating the Bible. They legislate things because they are just the "Christian" thing to do. Think stem cell research. Think prayer in schools -- now that wasteful moment of silence. Think adding "under God" to our pledge. Think opposition to gay marriage.

Those are just a few examples of the Religious right running roughshod over the party.

And hell.. they may make up the majority of the party. It really doesn't matter. Right now, I'm pissed because I have to choose between George Bush who I agree with on the majority of his fiscal policy or John Kerry, one of the most liberal fellas in the Senate.

I, unfortunately don't have a real choice here. George Bush represents about 25% of what I believe in. Kerry is probably around 1 or 2%.

aurora_borealis 06-09-2004 03:39 PM

In the past I had to choose a party so I could vote in the primaries. Then it changed to if you registered with a party you could only vote for those candidates (dumb!).

I vote on each issue and candidate individually. There isn't one party or person that encompasses all my beliefs. I am also in high agreement with those who don't like Christianity being the basis for laws and the government. I am not a fan of any religion dictating their beliefs, even if they may be of my own religion, onto other people. Freedom to practice, or not practice any religion is a wonderful thing. A certain religious group has a BIG hand in my state politics, and I don't like it at all. I want to be able to purchase hard liquor for use at home outside of 11am-7pm Monday through Saturday, and not have to do it through a state run store.

This a joke my friends keep telling me:
Q: What do you call a Republican from California that moves somewhere else?
A: A Democrat!!!

They are from small conservative towns, I am from San Francisco. Two complete political extremes create much merriment for us.

ztabchbum 06-09-2004 03:51 PM

I don't like/agree with Republican's views on abortion.

GeekyPenguin 06-09-2004 04:47 PM

I think our grasp on economics is the suck.

Optimist Prime 06-10-2004 09:50 AM

The Christian Right. Seriously, who are these people? They're mission statement from ICC website is to take over the world and enact laws bassed on Old Testament and making sure everyone is Christian. Also, I don't like the following people who some how are in the party: Bob Barr, Rush Limbaugh (way to make us all look like hypocritcal loudmouths, you fat fuck) people like that, etc. Also, that I joined by mistake and was mislead when joining. But am Congressional Advisor??:confused: My advice to that guy was to vote against everything. That way he could practice debating skills. Seriously, what kind of advice do they want from me?

Optimist Prime 06-10-2004 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by ztabchbum
I don't like/agree with Republican's views on abortion.
Me too. I quit. I'm not Republican anymore.


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