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Pike1483 06-09-2004 01:46 AM

Reagan-Haters: Bitterness and Hate from the Left
 
These comments were written by leftist columnist/cartoonist/idiot Ted Rall on his website, www.rall.com on October 26, 2003

http://www.rall.com/2003_10_01_archive.html
"Bottom line; Reagan was a stupid, vicious scoundrel who deserved prosecution for his role in Iran-Contra and October Surprise. He hurt America by turning its people against each other, by turning them selfish. He shan't be missed, and he shouldn't be mourned. "

No suprise now that Ted Rall is up to more hateful trash-talking about the late, great Ronald Reagan. If anyone saw the Hannity and Colmes on Tuesday, June 8, you were probably shocked and offended when Rall commented that Reagan was likely burning in hell (can't remember the exact quote, I'll have to wait for foxnews to post transcripts on their website). Ted Rall said some of the meanest, most hateful comments I'd ever heard about Ronald Reagan, all of which had NO factual basis. To say that Ronald Reagan is in hell during a national week of mourning when his family has not yet even buried him is just plain WRONG! Conservatives get accused all the time of being insensitive and judgemental, but liberals need to take a look at some of their own. I know this is one extreme example of hatred and bitterness from the left, and I know that most liberals don't feel that way at all, but the fact is, a lot of negative comments about Pres. Reagan are coming out from the left and are just meant to hurt, and defame this popular President, because they are worried that people remembering how great Reagan was will make George W. Bush look good. I think in the next few days the attacks against Reagan will get even worse because the left is horrified that Reagan's legacy will help George W.
Any other examples of left-wing politicians trying to defame Reagan that you know of? I know of many, and will be posting them soon, but this is already long enough, and I want some feedback. Thanks, and if you see Ted Rall in the streets, Give him a swift kick to the balls, do it for the Gipper!

Pike1483 06-09-2004 02:32 AM

John Kerry even flip-flops on Reagan
 
John Kerry Quotes about Reagan:

Listened to Rush Limbaugh on Tuesday, June 8 (I can already hear you liberals moaning), and he was commenting on Kerry and the Reagan thing. Very good comments in my book. You can check them out at http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...k_1.guest.html

And please Liberals, before commenting, take the time to read the artical, don't just come whining about Rush not being credible. He uses exact quotes and makes valid arguments.

Kevin 06-09-2004 07:57 AM

I don't think I've seen any bitterness or hate from the left. Not really. At least no to the degree that some conservative folks want the public to think there is. Yes, there is always that vocal minority of leftist nutjobs, but I haven't really heard any credible leftist railing on about Reagan's inadequacies.

DeltAlum 06-09-2004 10:10 AM

Jeez Pike,

Consider your sources and their agendas.

Truth is that no Democrats have been invited to speak in any of the activities. That's OK, there's no reason for them to.

But the reaction I heard this morning on NPR was that, while they would have been honored to be asked, it is really up to the Regan family and they respect their decisions and requests.

I remember the day President Kennedy was killed, hearing a guy I knew pretty well say, "Well, that'll teach him for beating Nixon." That was in the hall at our high school.

Anyone with that much passion on either side of the political aisle should see a therapist.

GeekyPenguin 06-09-2004 11:08 AM

Rush Limbaugh and I have the same disease! Unfortunately his cyst didn't stay put and has invaded his vocal box and brain as well.

Like DeltAlum said, consider the source.

Rudey 06-09-2004 11:12 AM

Yes Rush is nobody's favorite character but what are people arguing against? I can't tell because it looks as if people came on to just say consider the source.

-Rudey

Pike1483 06-09-2004 02:55 PM

Any comments on the Ted Rall issue? They don't come from Rush's website, they come from foxnews. I know Rush is to liberals what garlic is to vampires, so if you don't wanna look at Rush's website, look at my original post about Ted Rall, and tell me what you think about him. Do you condemn his statements?

GeekyPenguin 06-09-2004 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pike1483
Any comments on the Ted Rall issue? They don't come from Rush's website, they come from foxnews. I know Rush is to liberals what garlic is to vampires, so if you don't wanna look at Rush's website, look at my original post about Ted Rall, and tell me what you think about him. Do you condemn his statements?
I've never heard of Ted Rall until your thread. Obviously he's not that prominent of a liberal spokesman.

RACooper 06-09-2004 10:56 PM

Rall is pretty much some dick who attempts to grab attention by being shocking.... the man has no grasp of decorum, decency or dignity when trying to express his views or opinions....

If you ever want to "research" him try going to Yahoo.com and looking at the political comics section in the news.

Kevin 06-09-2004 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RACooper
Rall is pretty much some dick who attempts to grab attention by being shocking.... the man has no grasp of decorum, decency or dignity when trying to express his views or opinions....

If you ever want to "research" him try going to Yahoo.com and looking at the political comics section in the news.

That's how he stays in the limelight though. He doesn't say anything of consequence. He just intentionally tries to make people angry by spouting useless crap. Does he have a real job?

DeltAlum 06-10-2004 09:58 AM

I posted this in the "Desperate Clinton" thread -- so to those of you who read it there, I'm sorry to waste your time. But, because I'm so disgusted with what I'm reading, I'm going to copy it here.

"You know, I don't know why there is so much animosity in these discussions.

I caught a part of George H.W. and Barbara Bush on Larry King last night and he was saying what a nice conversation he, George W. and Bill Clinton had at the opening of the World War II Memorial recently. They just talked about general stuff and some old anecdotes.

Former Presidents of the United States are perhaps the smallest "fraternity" in the world -- and they always seem to value each other views and advice -- no matter which party they represent. That is especially true in times of crisis.

All of the rhetoric during the campaigns is pretty much that. Don't you ever wonder why, as soon as the election is over, usually everyone congratulates everyone else and the Republic goes on?

It's because, in the end, we're a whole lot more alike than different.

Finally, to end my little tirade, I find it disgusting that even the death of a great leader becomes grounds for attacking other leaders and contenders. I think that dilutes all of the good things and memories of the deceased.

For people like Drudge, Limbaugh, and the "liberal" guy (Rall(?), I've never even heard of him) are comtemptable for using this occassion for either political purposes -- or to simply advance their own agenda."

RACooper 06-10-2004 07:02 PM

Well since some don't know who this sack of sh*t Rall is... here is a link to his website:

www.rall.com

I would have just posted his latest comic... but I don't care to inflict that on the rest of GC right now.

Pike1483 06-11-2004 02:15 AM

Here's the transcript of the Hannity and Colmes episode: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,122264,00.html


One quote says:

"RALL: If you believe in heaven and hell, you've got to say, if anyone qualifies for hell it's a guy who lets five hundred thousand people died of AIDS. "


Reagan spent 6 BILLION dollars towards AIDS research! To say that Reagan did not do enough on the AIDS subject is ludacrist. And to say he "let" people die of AIDS? I suppose Reagan had the cure for AIDS in a lockbox or something.

I will agree with you all that this loser is a fanatic who just wants attention. I should have titled my thread "Bitterness and Hate from the FAR left." There's been a fair share of bitterness from other liberals, as well, like Dan Rather who commented that he thinks the Reagan coverage is too excessive. I'm sure Dan would much rather be covering Abu Gharib or something than honoring a late president. He's just afraid that remembering Reagan could possibly help out President Bush. There has been so much coverage of the Reagan events because the American people, for the most part, loved Reagan! It's supply and demand! The American people want to honor President Reagan! The American People want to be informed on these historic events. He won 49 States in his second election!

Munchkin03 06-11-2004 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pike1483

To say that Reagan did not do enough on the AIDS subject is ludacrist. And to say he "let" people die of AIDS? I suppose Reagan had the cure for AIDS in a lockbox or something.

Why you gotta bring LUDACRIS into this? :confused:

http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~dwinston/ludacris.jpg

LUDACRIS=the rapper
LUDICROUS=Rall. Rall is the Jerry Falwell of the far left. We all have our bastard cousins we want to keep in hiding 'cause they're just LUDICROUS, and he happens to be one of them. :)

Also, Pike--just so you know, Reagan didn't say the word AIDS in public until '85 as to not ruin his re-election chances with the Radical Reich. The 1980s AIDS discussions in the government were the work of C. Everett Koop.

Pike1483 06-11-2004 11:41 PM

I'll be the first to admit that I'm a bad speller. That's why I'm a chemistry major, not an English one.

What more do you think Reagan should have done with the AIDS crisis?


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