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WCUgirl 04-23-2004 08:44 PM

Interesting eBay Item
 
Hmmm....

Ever seen one of these?

How did this person get this? I mean, they aren't still used, are they? So I guess if a chapter had an old one just lying around and it wasn't in use, then no one would realize it's gone.

I dunnno...I just thought it was a strange item to see up for auction.

CSUSigEp 04-23-2004 08:48 PM

Thats kinda cool, but why would you need more than one black ball?

thetalady 04-23-2004 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CSUSigEp
Thats kinda cool, but why would you need more than one black ball?
Each initiated member had 1 white and one black ball. Each member dropped one or the other in the box to cast his vote on the prospective member being considered for membership.

PM_Mama00 04-23-2004 09:06 PM

I always wondered where the term "blackball" came from.

honeychile 04-23-2004 09:15 PM

When we cleaning out an old storage locker (when I was an active), we found the old Blackball box. It didn't look much like that one.

The reason why there's more than one black ball is that, the member has to select a ball, and put it into the voting section of the box. There were an equal number of black and white balls, so that no one would know how the vote was going until whoever counted the votes did so. Obviously, we didn't use it then, and hadn't for years.

But I can remember as we tried to decide what to do with it - keep it as a relic? Throw it away? We finally ended up smashing and burning it.


ETA: I know about the blackball system from my one year in a masonic organization, most definitively not from Alpha Delta Pi!!

bsp-mich24 04-23-2004 10:03 PM

I was told that BSP used the blackball selection as a process of biding new members in back in the 70's (by a Beta that joined 29 years ago). Thank goodness those days are gone.

pinkyphimu 04-24-2004 11:24 AM

that is so funny. i always knew what the term referred to...i just never knew there was a special box for it. oh well!

kddani 04-24-2004 11:31 AM

the sad part is most of us only know what blackballing was is from the episode of 90210, lol

The1calledTKE 04-24-2004 11:53 AM

I think alot of fraternities still blackball. Least they did when I was an active. I would imagine my chapter still does it unless IHQ told them not to anymore. They even showed a blackball box on that show on fraternities the History channel did. And if ws being used in modern times.

Kevin 04-24-2004 12:07 PM

We still have that same selection process today -- without the box and with a few qualifications. For example, legacies do not require that unanimous vote -- but they do require a vast majority of the vote. I can't remember off the top of my head what the number is. I think it's something like 4/5.

ADPiShannan 04-24-2004 01:12 PM

Interesting item. Id love to get one just to have it. My grandma and aunts who were in sororities said they heard of that and I know my grandma used that system when she was a member. Interesting history piece.

AlphaSigOU 04-24-2004 01:53 PM

Masonic organizations still use the traditional white ball/blackball (cube) system to elect members.

"Brethren, we are about to vote on the petition of Mr. William Robert Badass ( ;) ) for the degrees of Freemasonry. The committee has reported favorably. All members of the lodge present must vote. The white balls elect, the black balls (or cubes) reject. Remember your obligation and vote for the good of Masonry."

ETA: This portion of Masonic ritual is not considered esoteric, at least within Texas.

Glitter650 04-24-2004 04:39 PM

Rainbow girls still use a "ballot box" with black balls and white cubes as well.. although in my time in rainbow we never black balled someone as it is dealt with before we actually vote the voting is just a formality really.
I don't see much difference in how you vote (using black balls or some other system) it's still voting...

jubilance1922 04-25-2004 04:12 PM

My professional fraternity still uses our blackball box.

Kevlar281 04-25-2004 04:55 PM

I know of a chapter that still uses theirs. They call it the "machine."


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