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WhiteDaisy128 02-11-2004 12:30 PM

Badge with Emeralds?! E-Bay
 
So, this does not look like most badges...I've never seen one with emeralds, nor with that type of name on the back - with out a chapter marking and date...do you think this is a real badge or a fake?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=11145

DG515 02-11-2004 12:46 PM

whoa
 
445 bucks?!?!?!count me out on this one, guys......
:-D :-D
~*~mandie~*~

JohnsDGsweethrt 02-11-2004 12:47 PM

I can't believe it got bid up to 455$! It looks like a president badge but i don't see a clasp in the back

sageofages 02-11-2004 12:53 PM

Re: Badge with Emeralds?! E-Bay
 
Quote:

Originally posted by WhiteDaisy128
So, this does not look like most badges...I've never seen one with emeralds, nor with that type of name on the back - with out a chapter marking and date...do you think this is a real badge or a fake?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=11145

Just board crashing...

this guy seems to have a number of GLO badges (including one of ours :(

check out his seller link...
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...sort=3&rows=50

deadbear80 02-11-2004 01:14 PM

I don't think it's a president's badge, since it's too small (or, at least much smaller than the president's badge I remember). I've never seen one with emeralds or that kind of engraving either--so one of three things pops in my mind:
1) It's fake (but highly likely to be as I've held up my badge and the detailing is incorrect).
2) It's REALLY OLD (which would be why there's no chapter or date of initiation on the back)
3) The chapter somehow had them engraved differently, or this woman had hers engraved separately from DG.
ETA: I looked more carefully at my badge and saw the differences--especially the fact that the Delta and Gamma are elongated. I would think that someone had a necklace made to look like their pin. Also, if you notice, there's no marking to see if the gold is, in fact, real (like our badges have)--this could be a piece of costume jewelry made to look like our DG badge. Has anyone asked EO to check this out???

But 445 is way too much--can't afford that! I just hope the high bidder is a DG.

NutBrnHair 02-11-2004 01:23 PM

Just My Opinion
 
I bet it's real...and real old!

OleMissGlitter 02-11-2004 02:16 PM

This is my perception after looking at it, do you think it could have been altered and perhaps it wasn't engraved on the back originally and so they member had it done herself. I know of some older AOIIs who have badges with no engraving on the back. Sometime they didn't get it done. Now, my badge is my great-grandmother's from 1924 and it is engraved, but sometimes some were not for some reason. Also, the former owner could have liked emeralds so much as to have them added on herself. Just a thought.

Lil' Hannah 02-11-2004 02:34 PM

I saw this the other day, it's possible that it was made before there was a standard jeweler or guidelines for the standard way to wear the badge. It looks like this one was a necklace.

$445 may seem like a lot, but I remember a while ago a DG badge with diamonds went for $1025 or something like that.

AUDeltaGam 02-11-2004 02:38 PM

Something about that badge just looks off. For one thing, the cable isn't going over the crossbar like they all usually do. And it just looks....flat to me. And now that I look at it again, the cable isn't wrapped around the anchor. Now it could have been broken, but the badge still looks different to me.

But I love the emeralds!

hannahgirl 02-11-2004 06:46 PM

It looks fake to me......the letters on the crossbar look really strange....like they are handpainted on....

but.....i don't know.....:rolleyes:

OleMissGlitter 02-11-2004 07:05 PM

I'm not a professional or a DG, but it does look like the letters are painted on now that I look at it again. Also, do you think maybe the former owner gave her badge to a jewler and said, "make me a necklace that matches my badge?"

Either way, it is sort of neat in a way.

AnchorAlumna 02-13-2004 01:27 AM

WOW! I do believe this is an extremely old pin, 100 years or more old. I am looking in my old "History of Delta Gamma" issued 1973, and there is a photo of several early pins. It is tinted black and white and hard to tell, but it looks like one has a loop at the top and emeralds, and the cable goes behind the TDH bar. All look rather different, as if each was hand made by a different person. The lettering looks similiar to the lettering on the badge for sale. Another photo of an early badge shows it as a stickpin...there is a horseshoe on the top of the pin.
In the report on the 1905 Convention, the "History" states: "A uniform badge had become a necessity because of the many sizes and differences of design which came with the many authorized official jewelers - and probably some who were not official. The form used by Bunde and Upmeyer, our oldest authorized jeweler, was accepted."
During that same 1905 Convention, we adopted the familiar Pi Alpha new member pin.
At Officer Training Seminar in 1998, a PCC stood up and said she collected old badges. She had found a man that had an "H" badge but had not persuaded him to part with it yet!

sageofages 02-13-2004 11:41 AM

Check with your national headquarters to see WHEN this Katie was initiated. Certainly that will indicate when the pin was made and its relative age/value.

:)

Good luck...

AnchorAlumna 02-13-2004 04:57 PM

Good idea!
I checked with Carrie Hochwalt, Fraternity archivist at Executive Offices. She found a Katherine Bollinger Stimmel, Lambda - Minnesota, Initiated Date 10/1/1892. Date of death 1944.
So the pin is very old indeed!
I would love to know the story behind how it got from her to eBay. Apparently the current top bidder, bluedevil88, is a DG. She has bought several items with anchors - old postcards/greeting cards - and a gold and pearl lavalier that was on eBay back in December. Kate's wonderful old pin stays "in the family."

DG515 02-13-2004 06:07 PM

WHOA
 
Damn! I wish i had 450 bucks...emeralds are my birthstone.....MAN...........::grumbles about not ever having enough money after the bills are paid:: LOL......maybe if this auction were to go....i don't know.......2 months from now, after getting my paychecks and saving up...........
:Grumble:
:-D
oh well, at least it's still a DG
~*~Mandie~*~


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