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my local is currently on the pan hellenic council... however we're pretty small (only about 25) and the only local.... amongst 4 other nationals.... (who have like 40 girls and up) so we just went through rush and we got a few girls back (only 16 girls rushed- total) and none for final tea (our pref night- same thing) so... we spent like 600 dollars and didn't get any girls..... and the issue of being in panhell has come up again and again- and we're thinking we might get out of it since it isn't benefitting us at all.... any advice?
(i'm gunna try this in the local board too) |
Do you mean you spend $600 on Panhel dues??? Or did you spend $600 on rush parties? If it's the latter, wouldn't you have spent it anyway, even if you weren't a Panhel member?
If it's the former, I would seriously question why they are asking for so much $$$. |
actually- thats a very good question- and they spent the money on rush parties- but if we weren't in panhell then we wouldn't have to participate in the parties at our student union.... (which is where most of the money goes) we do more toned down stuff at the house- balloons etc but nothing crazy....
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Last year (2002-03 school year), we spent about the same amount as you on recruitment. 8 girls went through, and quota was 3 because 2 of those girls dropped out. We got one girl, and we're a national. We were devastated.
We COBed like crazy. It was exactly the kick in the pants that we needed. We were at total by the end of the year. We initiated about 15 sisters that year. The previous year we initiated 8. You have 2 choices as I see it: 1. Learn how to Rush in a formal situation. Maybe the other sororities in Panhellenic would be interested in giving you guys a workshop. Or talk to people on GC about what they do. 2. COB really hard. Is that where you get most of your girls? Then concentrate on it. I wouldn't entirely drop out of the Panhellenic council. If you girls decide that you don't care for formal recruitment settings, is it possible for you to forgo formal recruitment and only COB? |
i'm not really sure about forgo-ing formal rush- thats a good question... i'll ask about it- thanks:)
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I have never seen (in my limited experience) a situation where a local is benefited by being part of Panhellenic.
Usually the NPC groups want you as an associate member because it offers them a measure of control over how you Rush and when you Rush. A popular local not bound by Panhell's rules can slaughter the NPC groups in Rush. Point one: Rush wouldn't have to be dry per se. It could be wet as hell. I am not sure there are any other benefits of being in NPC to be honest. All they do is enforce rules that shouldn't apply to you. The frats will mix with you anyway as long as you are cute, or fun. The only thing they might be able to do is keep you out of formal all-greek events, but honestly the frats will want you in it so there are ways around NPC dissaproval. Girls chime in here: Is there any really beneficial reason that a local would want to voluntarily adopt NPC rules? Reasons that outweight the limitations? |
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Or if you have to be part of Panhel to get housing etc, although I guess you don't consider that strictly voluntary. |
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we own our house so the housing thing doesn't apply to us- but it definately might in other campuses.... |
I went to a campus with five locals and five nationals. ALL were full blown members of the Panhellenic. No associates or any of that crap. Local women held positions on Panhellenic, were active and participated in all of the events. If you're not a full member of Panhellenic, you should try to make that happen. If you are a full member of Panhellenic, you need to get into leadership roles on the council so that you can help make the big decisions. It's sad to say, but unfortunately, most of the big choices a Panhel makes comes from their leadership.
If you honestly feel that stepping out of Panhellenic is a good idea, then by all means, do so. I'm curious to know where you go to school. |
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we are full members of the council and we have 3 sisters on the exec board as well- and one is the assistant pan-hell rush chair and will be running everything next year... so we definately have a say in whats going on (she's adamently opposed to us leaving) but its still really hard.... also- there is soooo much dirty rushing going on allllll the time that its difficult to play nice- we try to- but other sororities still talk a lot about each other... :rolleyes: i do like being a member in that the girls get to at least have the opportunity to meet us if they wish- sometimes you are scared during rush and don't want to go places on your own- and i worry that if we are not in pan- hell that we won't have that exposure... but since we get so many girls during cob.... it probably wouldn't matter too much anyway... and we are definately keeping ourselves exposed as much as possible- wearing letters- getting involved with frats (we have 6 mixers alreayd set up! plus one with wayyy hot sigma chi in cornell ;)) and i guess the girls are having an open house party this weekend- and that really helps to get girls in too since they usually come iwth friends... shadokat: i go to suny cortland- in upstate NY :) we have a d phi e chapter there too- and two of my best friends are in it as well... i actually pledged three weeks with them before depledging.... pm me if you want the whole story.... again- thanks guys for the advice!!! :D |
Well my school offers a completely different scenario....which I won't go into here excpet to say NO locals are on Panhell... nor do I think they would join if we NPC women BEGGED and pleaded... but our Panhellenic council isn't recognized anyway... but I digress... back to the topic at hand....
I personally feel you should leave the council... if it's not benefitting you to be a part of it. The only benefit I can see is that they women who may not find out about you otherwise have to meet you during rush if you are a member of NPC and take part in the party rounds... if it's not helping you that these women are meeting your chapter... then leave the council, or if you think the problem is with the dirty rushing... then make the council enforce the rules better... call them on their ISHT and file rush infractions.. that's partly why you joined so you could ATTEMPT to avoid that.... so take advantage... I also have one more question why, if there are houses on campus are you all paying (what seems to be a lot of money) to rent rooms in the union ? seems to me AT most you'd need one for a day to do orientation and that's it... just curious.... |
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