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Attractive#7 01-28-2004 01:47 PM

Re-Chartering
 
Is there ever a situation where a pg who is re-chartering would have to change the greek letters of the chapter for the school. For example let's say that Backyard University had a chapter Alpha Chi Beta and for whatever reason, their chapter died out. So the petitioner's at BU (Backyard University :p ) have been working hard to bring their chapter back. So now they are getting ready to "re-charter" but they have to do so under new greek letters for their chapter. So instead of the Alpha Chi Beta chapter they are the Omega Omega Omega chapter.

Can anyone share any insight on this? Preferably someone from Nations, a Section Chair, or an older brother (like Sensuret):D *yeah i called u out* haha

sageofages 01-28-2004 02:10 PM

In Phi Mu, once a charter is granted with greek letter designations, it remains that chapter "name". For example, the Chi Chapter of Phi Mu at U of Missouri at Columbia was chartered early in Phi Mu. For a number of reasons, the chapter ceased operations ("closed") for a long time. Recently, the chapter "recolonized" and was initiated. At that initiation the ORIGINAL very very very old charter was returned to the chapter....NOT a new charter. (A happy reunion I might add!).

emb021 01-28-2004 02:29 PM

Re: Re-Chartering
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Attractive#7
Is there ever a situation where a pg who is re-chartering would have to change the greek letters of the chapter for the school. For example let's say that Backyard University had a chapter Alpha Chi Beta and for whatever reason, their chapter died out. So the petitioner's at BU (Backyard University :p ) have been working hard to bring their chapter back. So now they are getting ready to "re-charter" but they have to do so under new greek letters for their chapter. So instead of the Alpha Chi Beta chapter they are the Omega Omega Omega chapter.

Can anyone share any insight on this? Preferably someone from Nations, a Section Chair, or an older brother (like Sensuret):D *yeah i called u out* haha

I have never heard of this occuring within APO.

The letter designation stays with the school. A re-chartered chapter gets back those original letters.

Are you asking if this might occur or do you have an example?

bro_strawter 01-28-2004 05:37 PM

hmm...
 
I think I know what brought this question on.;) Let's just say I hope it's not true.

Attractive#7 01-29-2004 08:10 PM

Re: Re: Re-Chartering
 
A member from a rechartering pg told me that they were fighting trying to keep their original greek letters for the name of their chapter (if that makes since). I was trying to gain some insight on it.

Quote:

Originally posted by emb021
I have never heard of this occuring within APO.

The letter designation stays with the school. A re-chartered chapter gets back those original letters.

Are you asking if this might occur or do you have an example?


naraht 01-30-2004 03:02 AM

Old chapter letters kept
 
I'm not a section chair, but I play one on TV. :) :) Will National History & Archives Committee do?

The letters are assigned to the institution, if a chapter comes back at that institution, then the letters are given to the new group. In fact in one case (Southern Illinois University - Edwardsville), the chapter letters at a school that went out of business were assigned to a chapter at the public school that bought the campus.

I'm not sure this is directly related but, what *has* happened is the following. APO is trying to have rechartering efforts refered to by the school name rather than by the letters they would get back at chartering *until* they charter. For example: If there was a rechartering effort at Notre Dame, the group *should* be refered to as the University of Notre Dame Petitioning Group, *not* the Sigma Phi Petitioning Group. But they would be Sigma Phi chapter when they finish the process and recharter.

Among the reasons this is done...
1) Fairness with non-rechartering extension efforts.
2) Continued *push*. If the group can't use its chapter letters until it charters, it will be less likely to stall out as a PG, thinking that its already Sigma Phi, why finish the process...
3) Less pressure on certain rechartering efforts (coming back at Lafayette will be touch enough without them being thought of as *Alpha* PG.

The original questioner and the responder who knows the situation are at TennSt. Is this about Fisk U.?

I'll be happy to answer specific questions individually or in public, I'm curious...

YiLFS
Randy Finder

Sister Havana 01-30-2004 03:20 PM

Re: Old chapter letters kept
 
Quote:

Originally posted by naraht

3) Less pressure on certain rechartering efforts (coming back at Lafayette will be touch enough without them being thought of as *Alpha* PG.

Is there a rechartering effort going on now for Lafayette? I remember reading about that chapter closing when I was an active.

emb021 01-30-2004 03:31 PM

Re: Re: Old chapter letters kept
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sister Havana
Is there a rechartering effort going on now for Lafayette? I remember reading about that chapter closing when I was an active.
I am not aware of any such effort.

What Randy remarks is important. It was my understanding (no first hand knowledge or insider info) that the most recent re-chartering effort that was attempted just prior to the 75th died in no small part due to the fact that:

* it was Alpha Chapter
* it was close to the 75th Anniversary

Had they been dealt with like any other re-charter effort, maybe it would have been different.

Like many, I would LOVE to see Alpha back. But they must be dealt with like any other re-charter effort to be successful.

Senusret I 01-30-2004 07:22 PM

Re: Re: Re: Old chapter letters kept
 
Quote:

Originally posted by emb021
Like many, I would LOVE to see Alpha back. But they must be dealt with like any other re-charter effort to be successful.
I agree with this statement wholeheartedly.

naraht 01-31-2004 08:01 AM

As far as I know, (and on this I've got good sources) there is no current effort at Lafayette. The Student Activities office knows about us and would support if we had students, but we don't have any students interested right now.

As emb021 said, those may have contributed, but there were other issues as well...

If you know of someone who might be interested, have them contact the National Office....

emb021 02-04-2004 02:36 PM

Re-chatering: getting original letters back
 
All-

Thinking that this thread may be about a PG in Region IV, I have spoken with the RD about this scenario. There are no issues what so ever with any current PG not getting their original letters back. She is not sure where this rumor started, because it has never been brought up to her, the Section Chairs, the National Office, or the National Membership and Extension PD.

Any Petitioning Group, of course must finish their requirements, submit their packet for approval from the National Membership Committee, and pass a Board vote. If all that is done, then they will be granted a Charter at which time they will be given their original letters back.

If there are ever questions like this again, please feel free to write your Section Chair or Regional Director themselves. All of their contact info is available at www.apo.org.

SprintPCS 1925 02-13-2004 11:18 PM

That would be great to see the ALPHA Chapter re chartered


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