DU chapter suspended/ now inactive
 

DU's chapter at Bucknell was suspended for 2 1/2 years for hazing/booze violations.
Another 90 man chapter gone due to stupidity. The chapter had a beautiful house, great alumni and a history that dated back to 1889 as a local and as a DU chapter since 1950. Every fraternity has lost too many strong chapters. DU has lost Stanford, Colorado, Oklahoma State, Johns Hopkins, Union, Bucknell Rutgers and many others in the last 15 years to hazing/ booze, bad behavior needs to stop or Fraternities will become empty shells of what they once were.
Many might say these chapters are recolonized and come back better than ever, but many of chapters don't come back after suspension. What a waste of energy!

There's a strange echo in here. We read the same things over and over -- but still they continue.

We're talking to ourselves
 

Unfortunately, here on GC it seems like we're talking to our selves. shaking our fingers collectively at the jerks out there hazing and boozing.

All of this is hidden from most alumni and most undergraduates.

TKE has lost over 100 chapters, but there has never been one mention in their magazine of a chapter death or suspension, or what causes such.

I think the GLOs need to start making things a little more believable by being more honest and more forthcoming about problems.

I like the way the NCAA handles problems in the athletic field: if a school is under investigation, they send a letter to the school and copies to the media. If they take action, there is a full report (full page or more) in their public news-magazine, and on their website. Surely ABC's athletic director, coaches, alumni boosters, etc., read about XYZ's problems and sanctions, and make sure nobody at ABC is doing anything similar.

Re: We're talking to ourselves
 

Hoosier, there's a lot to be said for being more honest and forthcoming about problems, I agree. The elephant-in-the-living-room syndrome is prevalent in too many organizations, not just GLOs.

As to the NCAA and the higher education sports establishment, well, with all due respect I'm not sure that's the best model. Yes, there's publicity, and that might be a useful thing, but just from reading the news over the years I'm not sure there's a long-lasting deterrent effect.
I could be wrong, but there seems to be too much money and emotion invested, at least in the Big Time Sports schools, for a realistic chance at eliminating eventual resurgence of violations.

Re: We're talking to ourselves
 

hoosier, have you seen what Sigma Phi Epsilon does in their Journal? They have a section entitled "SigEp's Own Frat Boys" and it talks about what chapters that got shut down did.

Re: Re: We're talking to ourselves
 

This is in our journal and brought up during our national visits. For our chapter the president or risk management chair usually reads them once a month to remind us how easy it is to make a poor decision.

Re: Re: We're talking to ourselves
 

I don't get the SPE magazine, but I'll try to pick one up on my next campus visit.

I seldom see SPE chapters causing problems, except for one bad case last year (was that at Indiana?).

Congrats to SPE.

Re: Re: Re: We're talking to ourselves
 

You can read it online in a PDF format...it's linked somewhere off of their front page, I always forget where.

HMMMM.

This is from last spring.

http://www.orgs.bucknell.edu/bucknel...pinions01.shtm

2 snaps and a swirl for use of the term "poop pipes."