KD and ZTA at Arkansas State University...what happened to them?
 

Hey Greek Chatters,

I was looking through old ASU(my college) yearbooks that were sitting around in the desk of the lobby of my dorm, and until this point, I thought the only sororities that had ever been at ASU were DZ, AOPi, AGD, Phi Mu, and Chi-O. However, I saw/read in old yearbooks from the 70's (possibly early 80's as well...not sure) that Zeta Tau Alpha and Kappa Delta also used to have chapters here.

Anyone know when they left, and why? It's gotten my curiosity. :)

I'm pretty sure it was low membership for both. Rumor has it that if NPC decides to add another chapter, those will have first option to recolonize.

Is ASU considering adding another sorority?

Not that I know of. I used to work in the student life office and just heard that would be the policy if they were to add one. I don't think the Greek system (or University Hall) could support another sorority at this time.

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I went to UA fayetteville and from what i understand, and this was the early 90s, is that ASU had a low greek system. A girl who transfered in from ASU said that was the reason she transfered. I would think from my understanding if a school is open to another GLO it gives the ones previously there a chance to recolonize. I am suprised that ZTA and KD were low in membership. I know at Fayetteville they are two good houses.

Laura:)

I have no idea if it was low numbers or not, but that's what I'm guessing. I figure at this point ASU wouldn't add another sorority because 1)lack of space; there are only 5 sorority suites in University Hall for the 5 sororities that are there; 2)I don't think there would be enough interest for a sorority to survive. Last time I checked Phi Mu was sorta low on numbers; I figure all the sororities would have to meet quota every single time and still have plenty of girls cut that wanted in one for another sorority to survive here.

I also read in different places that ASU also used to have Alpha Phi Omega (co-ed service fraternity) and Phi Beta(co-ed music/drama fraternity). Wonder what happened to them? Probably low numbers, because Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia went inactive in 1999 for low membership(only 3 members, from what I heard), but they're currently recolonizing. Kappa Kappa Psi(band fraternity)lost their charter a few years ago for a few different things. We also used to have a local music co-ed fraternity, Phi Theta Sigma, that went inactive last year for lack of membership. Makes me glad Sigma Alpha Iota has hung in there all these years :D

How low does numbers have to be for Panhel groups for them to be shut down? Because to me, a small chapter doesn't necessarily mean a BAD chapter.

Amen to that sairose!!!

I would *think* that when numbers get low the following happens in some way shape or another: dues go up to compensate for the low numbers, some girls can't pay dues, girls quit, those that can pay and stay do all the work (and boy is a sorority work), but with little money can't do that much "stuff"(sisterhood events, social, etc) and our generally run down bc they are doing it all in the org, evenatually bad attitude arise, which in turns is shown around the campus and few PNM's want to join. While there are girls in the chapter there just aren't enough to keep the business side of a GLO running. :(

Sounds like a recipe for a closed chapter to me

I don't think there's a number that you have to be at to be low in the eyes of Panhel. I'm sure at some schools anything less than total is low.

Yeah, that makes sense to me. But, it wouldn't always be that way...most chapters of Sigma Alpha Iota have on average about 15 members...there are some "large" chapters(25+ members), and some very small chapters(-10 members). My chapter has only 7 active members, and I'll admit, there's some problems that come along with that few members. It's hard to organize socials because we really need all 7 of us there or there's not enough people, y'know? Same with organizing fundraisers, service projects, etc. However...smaller chapters have the bonus of being really close with their sisters. I not only KNOW all my sisters, but I know their majors, their class scedules, where they live, their pets' names, I mean EVERYTHING. We are really close, and I would hate for nationals to shut us down for low numbers.

But I can definately see how small numbers COULD be a problem. I figure that's why KD and ZTA were shut down (or whatever happened) here. I know from looking in the yearbooks that they were the two smallest groups.

I dunno...I just hate to know that there's inactive chapters of ANY GLO out there. It makes me sad...because you know that there must have been a strong sisterhood at one point. I REALLY hate when I go to the SAI national site and look at the directory of chapters and see how many inactive chapters there are. In Arkansas, there are SAI chapters at four other colleges. There used to be two more chapters(as well as two other alumni chapters)but they're inactive.