2.5 GPA
 

Hope and Little 32 raise the point that Greek organizations stress academic excellence. In fact, men of APHIA, in my opinion, are known for their intellectual prowess. If this is the case should the 2.5 minimum be raised?

No,
I don't think it should be raised. It should stay the same.

i think it could be raised a little since education is the primary focus. i don't know about other campuses but my campus gpa for our sorority minimum was a 2.7 but most prospectives had at least a 3.0 or higher.

I think the GPA should be raised. I'm not a member of a BGLO, but hope to be one day. If anyone wouldn't want it to be raised, you'd think it would be someone who isn't a member yet. However, raising the GPA would only make me strive that much harder to get a higher GPA. Which is what we all should be doing anyway correct? Working toward the highest GPA possible, not just the required 2.0 or 2.5 prerequisite set by the different Greek Orgs. If you TRULY want to be a member of a sorority/fraternity, you'd do what you have to do. Period. If every single BGLO were to raise their GPA requirements tomorrow to a 3.5, I'd bet interests who truly want it would make it a point to get that 3.5! Now, I know there are many reasons for people to have GPAs that may be 2.5 or lower...and each person and situation is different, but it would not be impossible to acheive what ever GPA it takes to get into an organization that you have in your heart and really want. Believe me, I know it can be hard. I am a full time parent,employee and student and I still manage to hold down a high GPA. (And I don't take "bullsh*t classes either). I work hard because 1) I NEED to get good grades in order to get grants to pay for school and 2) I know excellence in education is ONE of the MANY things sororities and fraternities look for in potential members. So, I say raise it and that's just my 2 cents worth. We're all entitled to our opinions...so please let's not turn this into a circus-like forum when disagreeing.

I think the GPA should be raised. Greeks should be the elite groups on campus and what better way to show your greatness. Your mind is the key access that you will ever have in life, along side religion.

I think the GPA should be at least a 3.0. This would give future greeks something to strive for and not just lust over the colors and stepping.


Just a little AKA note:
Pinkice

I agree with the majority on this issue. The required GPA should be raised a bit. I know that standards are different on every campus, so the individual chapters should take advantage of their ability to amend the required GPA for their chapter. Those members are best suited to examine and decide what is best at their school.

I also agree that education should be the primary focus. Those interested in becoming a member of a GLO would definitely work harder at achieving better grades. There is nothing wrong with putting the emphasis where it needs to be- education.

I also think it should be raised so that the emphasis is on education.

I don'think it should be raised....

Unfortunately all colleges are not created the same...a 2.3 is standard at schools like GA Tech where that is considered to be doing well!!!

As such, students who have a 2.5 are actually doing well...programs are not created the same...thus raising the GPA requirements at some schools would make it impossible to have a chapter. In fact, i've heard that Elite Liberal Arts Colleges and Ivy Leauges...Black Students Average GPA is 2.6...barely qualifying for the org.

As for other institutions (like many HBCU's) they require you to have a 2.7-3.0 to pledge regardless of national reqs. If i'm not mistaken, colleges can supercede certain national req.

Many of the history books note this problem, which is how the came up with a 2.5 GPA....especially at the onset of our organizations...since most flourished on Elite Historically White Colleges b-4 they began to make waves on the black campuses

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Ice Cold Kreator

I don'think it should be raised....

Unfortunately all colleges are not created the same...a 2.3 is standard at schools like GA Tech where that is considered to be doing well!!!

As such, students who have a 2.5 are actually doing well...programs are not created the same...thus raising the GPA requirements at some schools would make it impossible to have a chapter. In fact, i've heard that Elite Liberal Arts Colleges and Ivy Leauges...Black Students Average GPA is 2.6...barely qualifying for the org.

As for other institutions (like many HBCU's) they require you to have a 2.7-3.0 to pledge regardless of national reqs. If i'm not mistaken, colleges can supercede certain national req.

Many of the history books note this problem, which is how the came up with a 2.5 GPA....especially at the onset of our organizations...since most flourished on Elite Historically White Colleges b-4 they began to make waves on the black campuses

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Ice Cold Kreator

Ice Cold Kreator,

Your points are valid! ! ! Thank you for the post.

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There's more to a Member than a GPA
 

I agree that members of Alpha should be solid academically, thats a given. I think a 2.5 is acceptable. But theire is more to a member than a GPA. I look at community involvement, character, personality, savvy and ambition. I know many brothers who many not be strait A students, but who know how to make things happen, who are innovative and involved. I know many Bros with high grades who maybe so busy academically, that they don't participate in as many things as others. In a nutshell...I believe that you have to be exceptional at something and have something of value to bring to the table. 3.0s and higher is great, but that woun't run a chapter by itself...you need other characteristics to go with it. If you have a 2.5 and you are innovative, creative, outgoing, dynamic, and get things done...thats what we need. If all you got is a 4.0 and you can't even work well with other people, you might not be very useful to anyone but yourself.

Don't get me wrong...having decent grades should be a given,
but grades aren't the end-all be all of measuring someones ability.

HELL NO!!!
 

You know, it kills me to see how people change to this "elitist" mindset after they get on. Let's just rewind to freshman year when wearing the hottest clothes and dating the finest man/woman on campus were your goals. Thoughts of that kind made it a little harder to maintain a 2.5 or better.

I say that to say this, speaking from personal experience, some of the greatest Alphas I've ever had the honor of calling my brother became that way because of the company they kept. Once they crossed, they sought out the brothers that were positive, campus leaders, excelled in business and in their personal lives; thus molding them into the men they are today. To further separate our "lost" youth from our positive black men is a thought that I cannot comprehend. If we put the power back in the hands of the chapters with leadership and guidance coming from the advisors as opposed to the discipline and control they weild over the young brothers presently, the burden to properly choose, groom, and teach young brothers will be, and rightfully so, restored to the chapter brothers.

I'm not gonna front like I had the bomb GPA when I went on line (yeah I said it, ON LINE). And, I'm not gonna tell you that it improved during my process, nor will I say that pledging (and I said PLEDGING too) helped me to increase my GPA thereafter (although it did improve slightly). But pledging did make me realize what is most important above all individual achievements and personal triumphs, and that is the love that only a TRUE BROTHER can show to another.

AND IF YALL DON'T FEEL ME, THEN FINE! (Hell, I only expect a handful of you to understand it anyway.)

Re: HELL NO!!!
 

I agree. The GPA requirement should remain the same. There are many different variables that adds to a student's character other than GPA. Don't get me wrong, Alpha is about scholarship but it is also about being a leader in your community and race. Some people have a hard time comprehending subject material or learning. I have many chapter bros who just made the minimum and they are some of the most influential and upstanding leaders on my campus. They did more work for the frat than a lot of those who came in with higher GPA's. My dean told me that we look for QUALITY in aspirants not just intelligence. I'm glad that my chapter scrutinizes aspirants for more than their grades. Although students with high GPA's make GOOD members, they don't always make GREAT brothers! (if you don't know the difference, then you need to find out).

P.S.- As your Dean, Fatto you make me proud son!

Re: HELL NO!!!
 

Good Point Frat! I would think though that Major and GPA work hand and hand a 2.5 in engineering is a lot harder to attain then a 2.5 in basket weaving(no offense to the basket weavers)!

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