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ASTalumna06 06-13-2021 11:04 PM

New hazing penalties could hobble immature adults for life
 
https://news.yahoo.com/hazing-penalt...183200378.html

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Jun. 13—COLUMBUS — Legislation requiring tougher penalties after hazing-related injury and death on college campuses could make convicted felons of students whose brains are not yet fully developed, the Ohio Public Defender's office has argued.
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The committee is considering House Bill 205, sponsored by state Reps. Haraz Ghanbari (R., Bowling Green) and Mike Sheehy (D., Oregon). It would increase the general offense of hazing from a fourth-degree to a second-degree misdemeanor, the latter carrying up to 90 days in jail.

It would also create a new third-degree felony when the hazing involves recklessly coercing another into consuming alcohol or drugs, leading to physical harm. That charge could carry up to three years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

The bill and another measure carrying different penalties in the Senate would be named for Collin Wiant, an 18-year-old Ohio University student from Dublin, Ohio, who died of asphyxiation in 2018 after inhaling a canister of nitrous oxide during a fraternity ritual.

Further fueling the call for stiffer penalties was the early March death of Stone Foltz, 20, of Delaware, Ohio, who died from alcohol poisoning following a fraternity event at Bowling Green State University during which pledges were expected to consume large amounts of alcohol.

GoldBows 06-14-2021 11:18 AM

Good. You know what else hobbles immature adults for life? Injuries sustained while being hazed.

DGTess 06-15-2021 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldBows (Post 2485437)
Good. You know what else hobbles immature adults for life? Injuries sustained while being hazed.

ABSOLUTELY THIS!

Kevin 06-16-2021 06:39 PM

In these cases, there are already laws being broken. There are already charges which can be filed. This is going to be a piling on of charges, and generally speaking, society does not benefit at all from turning people into felons.

*winter* 06-17-2021 09:17 AM

That was my thought. Some of these people absolutely deserve to be felons, but they’ve broken enough laws to merit that without creating a new law.

Kevin 06-17-2021 10:52 AM

It also seems pretty Orwellian to me.

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C) No parent or guardian whose child is a student at any
primary, secondary, or post-secondary school or any other public
or private educational institution who knows, or has reasonable
cause to suspect based on facts that would cause a reasonable
person in a similar position to suspect, that a person
associated with the school or institution has suffered or faces
a threat of suffering any physical or mental wound, injury,
disability, or condition of a nature that reasonably indicates
hazing shall recklessly fail to immediately report that
knowledge or reasonable cause to a law enforcement agency in the
county in which the victim of hazing resides or in which the
hazing is occurring or has occurred.
So I get that the mandatory reporter language is similar to that used in the context of child abuse or neglect mandatory reporting. I don't like where this mandatory reporter mission creep is headed and I think there's a huge difference between reporting abuse or neglect of a child and being a mandatory reporter of what adults, who are capable of advocating for themselves, are doing.

Sciencewoman 06-17-2021 03:02 PM

In that sentence, is it the parent or guardian who is in trouble if they fail to report suspected hazing? Does child = minor child or any age offspring?

Kevin 06-17-2021 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sciencewoman (Post 2485481)
In that sentence, is it the parent or guardian who is in trouble if they fail to report suspected hazing? Does child = minor child or any age offspring?

Since it is referring to children attending a post-secondary school, the vast majority of those students will be adults.


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