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2017law 09-26-2002 10:46 AM

Law school/ lawyers
 
Going through the different threads I have noticed that there are a lot of law school students and lawyers out there in GC land. I figured I would start a thread to talk about law school or ask advice from those who have already finished.
We are all apart of the Greek community and should always be there to help each other.
Tell me what you think.

:)

~2017

juniorgrrl 09-26-2002 11:50 PM

As of tomorrow, I will have survived 6 weeks.

11 more weeks to go until the semester is over. Hooray!

Eupolis 10-02-2002 05:51 PM

I can't help but notice how excited to talk about this we all seem to be. :)

My bar exam results are supposed to be ready in the next three days. I went through most of August and September not thinking about it very much, but in the last week or so I've started to get anxious. I'm not panicking -- I felt okay about the exam -- but I'm anxious to know for sure. I feel bad for the people who took the California exam and have to wait until November, especially since it's reputedly a much harder test. (I don't know about any other states).

The biggest challenge before me right now is my hunt for employment. The legal market in the Denver area, as in most parts of the country, is a lot slower than it used to be. I went to a top-20 law school, and was in the top quarter of my class, but those aren't numbers that work magic, at least not anymore.

Part of me wishes that I'd taken a bit of time between undergrad and law school to get more experience in the world and to figure out a bit more about what I was getting into. Probably at least half of my class had taken at least one year off or had other post-baccalaureate degrees, and some of them were making big changes from other careers that had been running for a while. I jumped in not really knowing much about where I was going or what I was going to do with it. Even though most people change their minds about their plans, I still think it might have helped me to have had a better idea of what I was getting into and why I was there. My first year was... challenging, shall we say, and also loaded with culture shock and other complicating factors. When you're not sure why you're there, it's hard to face all that. I was well into my second year before I started to feel more at home with what I was doing in school... but then, I think it's pretty rare that anyone feels happy with their first year of law school.

kddani 10-02-2002 06:34 PM

Junior girl, me too! These past few weeks have gone by so fast. It's really amazing how much my way of thinking has changed and how I look at the world.

At this very moment i'm taking a break from writing my first memo. Not as easy as I thought!

Eupolis, good luck with your job search. I know that it's horrible all over. I'm glad that I don't have to worry at the moment. Hopefully by next year it'll be better for my 2L summer, and then for when I graduate.

I agree that so many people seem to have taken time off. But so far i'm glad that i've gone straight through. I haven't had to change my lifestyle that much, it hasn't been a major life change for me. And there are enough of my classmates that are a year or less out of school that I don't feel out of place. Although it's weird to meet a classmate's wife (especially when they're only a couple years older than you!). I'm just not used to that yet.

I'm really enjoying it so far though.

valkyrie 10-02-2002 11:36 PM

Eupolis, after reading all of your very thoughtful and well worded posts, I have no doubt that you passed the bar. :) I know that waiting is the worst, though.

As far as looking for a job, have you tried bankruptcy? It's the one hot thing right now, and it's actually very interesting, sophisticated work if you're in a large law firm practice. If you haven't already checked out www.infirmation.com and its Greedy Associates message boards, you might want to because there's usually some good information there.

Oh, back to the original topic -- I graduated from law school, summa cum laude, in 1999. :D I thought law school was really fun (I know, I'm warped) but the actual practice isn't my favorite thing in the world right now. I'm naturally a more creative, artsy type person, and that's not always the best personality type for legal work.

juniorgrrl 10-03-2002 12:06 AM

The first week of school was the longest week of my life. Not the hardest, but definitely the longest.

I used to say "it sucks less each day." Now I've taken to saying "I like it more every day."

I hate not having any feedback along the way - that's the hardest part for me. I'm used to knowing the magic number to get an A in my classes. The idea of making a C is scaring me to death!

We've got Thurs and Fri off for the hurricane. And then we have Mon and Tues off as "reading days" So, that means I have a whole week off! :D

valkyrie 10-03-2002 12:21 AM

It's very easy to freak out at the beginning of law school. I remember sitting in a Mexican restaurant my first week, having dinner, and then I thought -- OMG, what am I doing here at a restaurant when I should be home, reading? Yeah, I got over that pretty quickly.

It is scary around exam time, first sememster freshman year. My first final was criminal law, and the class sucked. We had a new professor who usually showed up for class looking like he had slept in his clothes, in the car, and ran class like a talk show, asking "Well, what do YOU think about that?" and bragging about the guy he prosecuted in New York for smuggling drugs in his shoes. His exam was this horribly convoluted fact pattern involving Bobby Brown and Whitney Houston, and of course the ultimate question was which people can be charged with which crimes (and then you have all the people standing around in the hallway after class, doing the law school version of "tent talk" admitting that they were charging dead people with crimes). I left the building convinced that I was going to flunk out of law school because I just didn't know what I was doing and lived in terror until grades were posted. Of course, I did fine, but I always did get the freak outs waiting for grades. It *is* super stressful when your entire grade for a whole semester is determined by only one exam...but as long as you prepare and set three alarm clocks and arrange a wake up call for exam day (my number one fear was oversleeping and missing a test entirely) everything will be good.

Eupolis 10-03-2002 01:06 PM

Valkyrie-- Thanks for your kind encouragement! I'll let you all know what happens, of course.

Juniorgrrl-- I know what you mean about the lack of feedback. If you're concerned about exams, several professors I know recommended the book Getting to Maybe by Richard Michael Fischl and Jeremy R. Paul. Law school test-taking is a separate skill just like paper-writing or memo-writing is, and you can study it. They don't teach it in classes, though! I probably should have paid more attention to that book -- I never really excelled at the three- and four-hour essay exam. Fortunately there are other exam formats that I'm much better at writing!

I'd written a lot here with some of my thoughts on exams and scoring, but I decided that you've probably got more than enough thoughts on that (and advice from 2Ls and 3Ls) running through your head already! So, I've set it aside.

Eupolis 10-03-2002 01:58 PM

the July 2002 Colorado Bar Exam
 
I PASSED!!

Whew!

I'll be swearing in as an attorney on the 29th.

KappaKittyCat 10-03-2002 02:09 PM

HOORAY!


http://www.plauder-smilies.de/jump.gif


I'm positively POINGING for joy!


I knew you'd do it!

CONGRATULATIONS!

valkyrie 10-03-2002 02:14 PM

Like there was *any* doubt???

Congratulations!!!!!!!

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EagleChick19 10-03-2002 05:59 PM

Congratulations, Eupolis!!! :D

Optimist Prime 10-03-2002 06:41 PM

Congrats

juniorgrrl 10-03-2002 11:48 PM

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

:D :D :D

AlphaSigLana 10-04-2002 12:19 AM

I'm a criminal justice major as well as pr. Lately I have been thinking about being a lawyer. Every so often I think about this. But I realize my GPA is only in 2's so I would not be able to get in a first tier law school. I am also someone who gets stressed easy and feels like dropping something if i think it is too hard for me, bc I'd rather drop out than fail. UGH! But criminal law really interests me!
congrats Eupolis!!!! :D


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